Superman VS Marvel: Slugfest Gauntlet

Originally posted by Damborgson
No it wasn't. When they put the disc on him he was able to communicate with the alien life. It didn't increase his intelligence or something...he was already talking like that during the time they tricked him into the rocket.

He'd lost the disk. No reason for him to have been weakened anymore.

Lol...the effect of the disk still took its toll on his power level and I guess you are forgetting about the Spikes that fed off of him until he set them free. Let's not even include the fact the writer himself said that he was still weakened while being on Sakaar.

Originally posted by carver9
Why not? He has beaten plenty of people with versatility. Hull main game changer is powering through attacks and overwhelming his opponents. This doesn't include the fact that Superman has been taken out by people similar to Hulk.

Why not?

The answer is a simple one, speed.

Superman hits the Hulk harder and faster than he has ever been struck before in a short period of time. When Hulk regauns consciousness you can then speculate on how RD 2 will go.

Originally posted by carver9
Lol...the effect of the disk still took its toll on his power level and I guess you are forgetting about the Spikes that fed off of him until he set them free. Let's not even include the fact the writer himself said that he was still weakened while being on Sakaar.

Yeah, it took its toll on someone who has infinite power. The Hulk replenishes quickly. Faster than Surfer who was already using power cosmic seconds after the disk was off.

Same deal there also. They could only do that because the Hulk has power to spare.

Weakened as in he's not WWH maybe. Still above savage Hulk.

Pak also said WBH and Galactus would be an interesting fight. 🙂

Originally posted by carver9
That was Savage Hulk bro. When they put the disc on him, that's when he was able to communicate with everyone. Also, during the tectonic plate shifting, Hulk was still weakened when he pulled that ft off.

LOL At the Green Scar being "Savage Hulk"

Savage Hulk persona is learning impaired, this Hulk in Planet Hulk is some other incarnation of Hulk, not Savage Hulk.

The more and more I'm getting convinced someone is getting his intel from respects threads only.

For a "Savage Hulk" incarnation he seems very articulated and shows Tactical thinking.... I wonder why ... Let me think........................

Rao head hurts, Rao no understand. This too complicated!

@Quani

Quanwins are only good for Quan. 😄 We make fun of Quanwins in here

Wait. He really said Savage is Planet Hulk?

Originally posted by -Pr-
Wait. He really said Savage is Planet Hulk?

Originally posted by carver9
That was Savage Hulk bro. When they put the disc on him, that's when he was able to communicate with everyone. Also, during the tectonic plate shifting, Hulk was still weakened when he pulled that ft off.

lol.

I never said Savage Hulk was WWH. You all keep flipping my words. What I am telling you is, during the beginning, you have nothing proving he is outside of Savage Hulk physically. He went mindless in that ship when he found out he was being shipped to another planet.

Originally posted by carver9
I never said Savage Hulk was WWH.

No, you did not said savage hulk was wwh.

You said savage hulk was PLANET HULK!

Geez Carver get your hulk incarnations straight.

And some of the scans i posted, are from planet hulk right on the tectonic plate feat, and he does not looks mindless btw.

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
No, you did not said savage hulk was wwh.

You said savage hulk was PLANET HULK!

Geez Carver get your hulk incarnations straight.

Why would i say they are the same when I have been arguing for yrs against this? Whatever Rao...if you want to win this and keep this going then hurray. I'm done with this topic.

Back to damborgson...I will provide a scan showing and stating Hulk being weakened during planet Hulk.

Originally posted by carver9

Back to damborgson...I will provide a scan showing and stating Hulk being weakened during planet Hulk.

He was weakened as the green scar persona maybe. But he's still > Savage.

Not that it matters since he should have regained his pwoers after the disk were gone via...common sense.

Originally posted by carver9
Why would i say they are the same when I have been arguing for yrs against this? Whatever Rao...if you want to win this and keep this going then hurray. I'm done with this topic.

I don't want to win anything, but We better leave it at that, so We can be in good terms. I just want you to one day to see the light and join the Good side (DC), That goes for Damborgson too. Not for Quan though. 😆

Originally posted by Damborgson
Nope. It's exactly what it is.

That's not savege Hulk. It's a different persona, since the savage never showed that type of intelligence. He didn't start dumb then gain intelligence on Sakaar. He was lucid the whole way though.

That's not even slightly applicable. That persona was stronger than the average savage hulk after the disks were removed from his body. So it'd be more like trying to give classic Thor King Thor's feats because they're the same person technically.

You put in a lot of detail into that video 👆

It was Gravage hulk, the original hulk persona with savage hulk's powers with a somewhat better mind but that cost him his madder-anger dynamic because he wasn't able to get as angry as savage. Believe it or not Savage hulk wasn't always like a child like hulk. It wasn't untill 80's to hulk to revert to that persona and that's called child-like hulk.

The disc weakened him, he gained his strength back. It wasn't a stronger persona than savage hulk, that's not even hinted anywhere.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Nope.

It was Gravage hulk, the original hulk persona with savage hulk's powers with a somewhat better mind but that cost him his madder-anger dynamic because he wasn't able to get as angry as savage. Believe it or not Savage hulk wasn't always like a child like hulk. It wasn't untill 80's to hulk to revert to that persona and that's called child-like hulk.

The disc weakened him, he gained his strength back. It wasn't a stronger persona than savage hulk, that's not even hinted anywhere.

Concession accepted. "nope" won't cut it. Never has.

It was green scar. A new persona. Gravage never showed itself again after very early Marvel appearance I don't believe.

That's cool. I didn't know savage was an 80's creation.

Yes. great lol?

It's the green scar...of course he is. It's the reason Hulk was turned into hat persona. So his anger could go to new levels and he could take on the WWH persona.

It doesn't go Green Scar < Savage< WWH 😬

Originally posted by Damborgson
He was weakened as the green scar persona maybe. But he's still > Savage.

Not that it matters since he should have regained his pwoers after the disk were gone via...common sense.

It wasnt just the disk that weakened him though. The spike weakened him as well.

http://s160.beta.photobucket.com/user/EndlessMike9/media/Hulk/sakaarstrength.jpg.html#/user/EndlessMike9/media/Hulk/sakaarstrength.jpg.html?&_suid=1363490342931047749153315089643

Writer conformation. He ended up getting his power back after being hit by the warp core bomb.

http://s160.beta.photobucket.com/user/EndlessMike9/media/Hulk/hulkdurability.jpg.html#/user/EndlessMike9/media/Hulk/hulkdurability.jpg.html?&_suid=136349061142408270054257009178
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Hulk/hulkdurability1.jpg

Originally posted by Damborgson
Concession accepted. "nope" won't cut it. Never has.

It was green scar. A new persona. Gravage never showed itself again after very early Marvel appearance I don't believe.

That's cool. I didn't know savage was an 80's creation.

Yes. great lol?

It's the green scar...of course he is. It's the reason Hulk was turned into hat persona. So his anger could go to new levels and he could take on the WWH persona.

It doesn't go Green Scar < Savage< WWH 😬

Green Scar was born after Hiroim trained hulk. Before that he was called Green Scar only because of the prophecy.

It was Gravage hulk and he's appeared several times after that. By the retcon of Hulk season one savage hulk is nothing but a gravage hulk whose intelligence was neutered by a drug just after his earliest transformation and thus every time savage hulk shows lucidity its gravage hulk re-appearing.

WWH IS green scar. Before Hiroim trained him though, he was just Gravage hulk.

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
LOL At the Green Scar being "Savage Hulk"

Savage Hulk persona is learning impaired, this Hulk in Planet Hulk is some other incarnation of Hulk, not Savage Hulk.

The more and more I'm getting convinced someone is getting his intel from respects threads only.

For a "Savage Hulk" incarnation he seems very articulated and shows Tactical thinking.... I wonder why ... Let me think........................

Rao head hurts, Rao no understand. This too complicated!

@Quani

Quanwins are only good for Quan. 😄 We make fun of Quanwins in here

Originally posted by abhilegend
It does now. I don't know what else to tell you other than the world tree has never been depicted like that in actual appearance. It was just a myth retold.

Green Scar was born after Hiroim trained hulk. Before that he was called Green Scar only because of the prophecy.

It was Gravage hulk and he's appeared several times after that. By the retcon of Hulk season one savage hulk is nothing but a gravage hulk whose intelligence was neutered by a drug just after his earliest transformation and thus every time savage hulk shows lucidity its gravage hulk re-appearing.

WWH IS green scar. Before Hiroim trained him though, he was just Gravage hulk.

There's nothing that you can tell me since you're wrong. You can think what you'd like if you want though. It doesn't make too much of a difference for either us of in the end. 👆

That's the point of a prophecy though. And it's the point of the green scar persona. He was never referred as such before of course, but the lucid hulk shown who was shot into space was only lucid because he was the new persona Pak was going to push. I doubt his intentions were "gravage" Hulk turning into something bigger.

Originally posted by Damborgson
There's nothing that you can tell me since you're wrong. You can think what you'd like if you want though. It doesn't make too much of a difference for either us of in the end. 👆

That's the point of a prophecy though. And it's the point of the green scar persona. He was never referred as such before of course, but the lucid hulk shown who was shot into space was only lucid because he was the new persona Pak was going to push. I doubt his intentions were "gravage" Hulk turning into something bigger.

Yeah the prophecy came true when the planet blew up and hulk actually became Green Scar after the training from Hiroim.

Your doubting doesn't makes it true. The hulk Illuminati shot in space was savage hulk and he wasn't lucid untill he passed the portal. Now we know whenever savage hulk acts lucid, his gravage persona re-appears since savage hulk is nothing but a forced mentally retarded gravage hulk.

Originally posted by abhilegend
You proclaiming something is wrong doesn't makes me wrong. Bring an actual picture of World Tree being that big and not some myth being retold. That's not the actual size of the world tree from any of its actual appearance.

Yeah the prophecy came true when the planet blew up and hulk actually became Green Scar after the training from Hiroim.

Your doubting doesn't makes it true. The hulk Illuminati shot in space was savage hulk and he wasn't lucid untill he passed the portal. Now we know whenever savage hulk acts lucid, his gravage persona re-appears since savage hulk is nothing but a forced mentally retarded gravage hulk.

You're right. You being wrong is why you're wrong. 👆 That is a picture of the world tree...the only difference is that is foliage doesn't extend like that anymore.

He was green scar the entire time. That was the persona.

My doubting doesn't make what true? Snarky responses only hold weight when directed towards something that makes sense...

Abhi..

THAT IS NOT SAVAGE HULK.

He was lucid the entire time.