Originally posted by Rao Kal El
But she was at PEAK, not "STILL WEAK" right?
Hulk said "she tried lifting it and she is stronger than all of you but she is still weak". You twisting it to fit something you wish it could isn't helping your argument. She had plenty of time to heal and the woman has a healing factor. She was at 100% buddy.
Originally posted by carver9
Hulk said "she tried lifting it and she is stronger than all of you but she is still weak". You twisting it to fit something you wish it could isn't helping your argument. She had plenty of time to heal and the woman has a healing factor. She was at 100% buddy.
It does not says in the scan you posted, and pardon me, but I don't trust information that comes out from certain sources, so I need to read that by myself. (You understand)
Can you give me that issue # of the retcon.
And I am not twisting anything, the context of the story tells you that She Hulk was beaten pretty bad. Is logical to think that she is STILL WEAK because of it.
How do you know she was 100%? I think some statements you make are from your own cook book
On the ORIGINAL story she was so beat up that she needed attention
Originally posted by Raisen
of course you crawl out of your ****ing cave to cherry pick a scan from thirty years ago. i'm going to start my superman hearsay lowball scan collection tonight and make sure i post 37 consecutive pages of it tomorrow for you to cry and beat off to. now crawl back to your cave, if you get lost, remember to follow the slime trail you left when you came here
Originally posted by carver9
Lol...just like Martian Manhunter being more powerful than Supes Huh? What about it being stated that Diana and Superman are equals? Lol...MM can beat the entire JLA huh? Don't discredit one ft without accepting the other.
Originally posted by carver9
Also, a calm Hulk held up a mountain twice the size of the Appalachians.
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/12259408/Hulk4.jpg.html
Originally posted by Rao Kal El
That is not SAVAGE HULK, that is "Banner Hulk"As in Banner is in control, Now I do not know how calm you can be, when You see a mountain that is about to fall in your dome and you can only lift 75 tons at base level but I will get pretty stressed out in that situation, won't you?
Originally posted by Rao Kal ElProfessor Hulk started off also stronger than Savage Hulk with the difference that He actually had the advantage of being intelligent.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Merged hulk could still amp his strength in savage banner era, he would just revert to banner if he got too angry. Where was this stated that he couldn't amp his strength?
Let's see
samson class 75 says he is more powerful than savage hulk. Countless fights where savage hulk is stalemated by sub call 100 beings until he gets angry and surpasses them. The banner hulk as carter pointed out lifted 175 billion tons, that wasn't his max, just his starting point because as carver said, he was calm, lol, if angered he would have gotten even more powerful until the failsafe kicked which would have forced him to change into banner.
NOw, that's the hulk that a byrnes era superman knocked out, a hulk who when calm lifts 175 billion tons and can get even stronger until the failsafe kicks in. Superman knocked him out after a decently long fight where he, the hulk was getting stronger because the failsafe never kicked in, now imagine what pre flashpoint superman would do to a savage hulk who gets stalemated briefly against class 75 beings. The base savage hulk is way way below 150 billion tons range and will get one shotted before the fight even starts. LOL
@Rao...
I just relooked at that part and yes, she was weakened during the time she tried to assist.
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/12259411/Hulk5.jpg.html
I'll give you that BUT Ironman was still there and he couldn't do a thing. If you don't think Ironman can lift 85 tons, especially looking at his fts...then something is wrong.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Really? I've seen tougher kids than you, kid. Don't start a shitfest here, you don't know who you are dealing with. Go home.
Martian Manhunter being claimed to more powerful than superman is nothing to do with strength since he has a shit ton more powers than superman. Superman was always the strongest being on the planet. When was WW said to be equal in strength to superman? MM's telepathy is his trump card. Hulk and samson have the same powerset except samson can't get stronger. You as usual don't know what you are talking about.
So you admit Martian Manhunter is more powerful than Superman? By the way, Samson can get stronger...the longer his hair is the stronger and more powerful he becomes. You like usual don't know what you are talking about.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Really? I've seen tougher kids than you, kid. Don't start a shitfest here, you don't know who you are dealing with. Go home.
Martian Manhunter being claimed to more powerful than superman is nothing to do with strength since he has a shit ton more powers than superman. Superman was always the strongest being on the planet. When was WW said to be equal in strength to superman? MM's telepathy is his trump card. Hulk and samson have the same powerset except samson can't get stronger. You as usual don't know what you are talking about.
ORly. Let's see
Originally posted by carver9
So you admit Martian Manhunter is more powerful than Superman?
There are a lot of contradictory statement about who is more powerful but on average superman has been claimed to be more powerful than J'onn. J'onn gets some lip-service when the stories feature around him exclusively like Trial By Fire or something, but its soon forgotten.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Lets see what J'onn claims desperately.There are a lot of contradictory statement about who is more powerful but on average superman has been claimed to be more powerful than J'onn. J'onn gets some lip-service when the stories feature around him exclusively like Trial By Fire or something, but its soon forgotten.
But it was stated that Jonn was more powerful than Superman as well. I'm arguing like you. I'm picking and choosing.
Originally posted by carver9
@Rao...I just relooked at that part and yes, she was weakened during the time she tried to assist.
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/12259411/Hulk5.jpg.html
I'll give you that BUT Ironman was still there and he couldn't do a thing. If you don't think Ironman can lift 85 tons, especially looking at his fts...then something is wrong.
Thanks Carver, much respect for that.
TBH I do not know exactly what are the specs for the Iron man model 4 classic armor, so I can't respond to that.
Originally posted by carver9
@Rao...I just relooked at that part and yes, she was weakened during the time she tried to assist.
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/12259411/Hulk5.jpg.html
I'll give you that BUT Ironman was still there and he couldn't do a thing. If you don't think Ironman can lift 85 tons, especially looking at his fts...then something is wrong.
Originally posted by carver9
So you admit Martian Manhunter is more powerful than Superman? By the way, Samson can get stronger...the longer his hair is the stronger and more powerful he becomes. You like usual don't know what you are talking about.
I know Samson can get stronger with his hair. I meant not like hulk with his rage unless you think he starts increasing his hair in middle of a fight. Seriously dude?
Originally posted by carver9
But it was stated that Jonn was more powerful than Superman as well. I'm arguing like you. I'm picking and choosing.
It's forum rules that you can only pick and choose if it involves Thor or Superman. You can't do that for Hulk, X-Men characters, Silver Surfer, or others. You must only pick lowball feats and speculation for those characters.
Originally posted by Raisen
See if you can find your way home by following your own slime trail. son.
Originally posted by carver9
But it was stated that Jonn was more powerful than Superman as well. I'm arguing like you. I'm picking and choosing.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Iron man is 75 tonner or something in his silver centurion armor.
facepalmI know Samson can get stronger with his hair. I meant not like hulk with his rage unless you think he starts increasing his hair in middle of a fight. Seriously dude?
Classic Ironman isn't a 75 tonner...he's stronger.
You didn't know anything because you wouldn't have said he doesn't get stronger. Seriously bro?
Originally posted by abhilegend
That's all you got kid? Even carver can do better than that.
One or two times in his entire carrier. Superman has been stated to be more powerful than him from start. Its just the matter of averages.
What if I want to use the small times it was said vs the times it was said about Superman? Why can't I debate like you? I can post some scans of Hulk being claimed as being the most powerful being to walk the Earth but you'll discredit it because you are a picking/choosing professional. So again, what makes my Jonn comment any less than that lame, lowballing scan you posted?
