Originally posted by Batman-PrimeI have read it over. But like I said being easily owned by Black Racer or being physically restrained by Darkseid aren't examples where he is greater than he is normally portrayed imo.
He is. You should read OWAW, I really don't see the point in educating you on this one. Readup on OWAW Supes, use common sense and forget for once your bias and you will understand.
In Blood and Thunder Thor was far greater than his average portrayals.
Originally posted by -Pr-I completely disagree. When we see him go up against a similar opponent in that of Darkseid he shows no advantage as opposed to how he's normally portrayed. The probes were set up for fail in the event once they started getting defeated then everyone had their number. Maybe not to the degree Superman and Doomsday were doing so but my point still remains.
Superman was well above how he's normally portrayed. That much was made abundantly clear in OWAW.
Originally posted by quanchi112
I completely disagree. When we see him go up against a similar opponent in that of Darkseid he shows no advantage as opposed to how he's normally portrayed. The probes were set up for fail in the event once they started getting defeated then everyone had their number. Maybe not to the degree Superman and Doomsday were doing so but my point still remains.
Edit: Actually never mind.
Originally posted by quanchi112
I completely disagree. When we see him go up against a similar opponent in that of Darkseid he shows no advantage as opposed to how he's normally portrayed. The probes were set up for fail in the event once they started getting defeated then everyone had their number. Maybe not to the degree Superman and Doomsday were doing so but my point still remains.
bt Thor got koed in a few shots by Bill, bt Thor got almost one shot by surfer's board in the back.
since you lowball superman it can be done to thor as well
Originally posted by -Pr-He killed Probes easier than Black Lightning, Wonder Woman, Aquaman, and Hippolyta did. Which should be expected since they all suck... especially Aquaguy.
Superman was well above how he's normally portrayed. That much was made abundantly clear in OWAW.
OWAW Superman was basically Superman not holding back and learned how to do fancy shit like making foot drills. Even when he was supposedly super not holding back even worse, he destroyed like one Probe and helped damage another one while Doomsday was raping the dick out of them.
Good feats. A little overblown IMO. I'd put him on par with BT Thor
Originally posted by Branlor Swift
He killed Probes easier than Black Lightning, Wonder Woman, Aquaman, and Hippolyta did. Which should be expected since they all suck... especially Aquaguy.OWAW Superman was basically Superman not holding back and learned how to do fancy shit like making foot drills. Even when he was supposedly super not holding back even worse, he destroyed like one Probe and helped damage another one while Doomsday was raping the dick out of them.
Good feats. A little overblown IMO. I'd put him on par with BT Thor
They were in space for days. He killed more than one probe while they were out there.
And he beat plenty on earth too.
Also, Aquaguy > your face.
Originally posted by -Pr-Probably took days to defeat that one then.
They were in space for days. He killed more than one probe while they were out there.And he beat plenty on earth too.
Also, Aquaguy > your face.
I realize. Just that the Doomsday scenario was supposed to be where he turned into a SS
In being gay
Originally posted by Branlor Swift
He killed Probes easier than Black Lightning, Wonder Woman, Aquaman, and Hippolyta did. Which should be expected since they all suck... especially Aquaguy.OWAW Superman was basically Superman not holding back and learned how to do fancy shit like making foot drills. Even when he was supposedly super not holding back even worse, he destroyed like one Probe and helped damage another one while Doomsday was raping the dick out of them.
Good feats. A little overblown IMO. I'd put him on par with BT Thor
Superman was destroying probes casually. If you think that puts him on par with B&T Thor, I'd just laugh at you.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Everyone else was amped beyond belief. Black Lightning was amped by B13 technology, Wonder Woman used a magical shield to cut at its weak point after its armor was already weakened, aquaman used trident of neptune, Hyppolyta was wearing gauntlet of atlas and even then it was the probe itself who destroyed itself by trying to get free from the lasso. Should we go to the actual high end feats from the probes? One probe raped entire JLA, killed 100000 enhanced daxamites, stalemated Mordru+Legion, ripped Guy Gardner warrior apart to the molecular level, destroyed Warworld in seconds, smacked superman+mongul, threw mongul across solar system, totally ignored maxima, owned Zod, Ignition, and the rest of zod squad twice etc. Probes were easily high herald level with some feats that are above that level.Superman was destroying probes casually. If you think that puts him on par with B&T Thor, I'd just laugh at you.
Owaw Superman is just Superman not holding back
Originally posted by abhilegendAmped beyond their normal levels does not make a Superman level character
Everyone else was amped beyond belief. Black Lightning was amped by B13 technology, Wonder Woman used a magical shield to cut at its weak point after its armor was already weakened, aquaman used trident of neptune, Hyppolyta was wearing gauntlet of atlas and even then it was the probe itself who destroyed itself by trying to get free from the lasso. Should we go to the actual high end feats from the probes? One probe raped entire JLA, killed 100000 enhanced daxamites, stalemated Mordru+Legion, ripped Guy Gardner warrior apart to the molecular level, destroyed Warworld in seconds, smacked superman+mongul, threw mongul across solar system, totally ignored maxima, owned Zod, Ignition, and the rest of zod squad twice etc. Probes were easily high herald level with some feats that are above that level.Superman was destroying probes casually. If you think that puts him on par with B&T Thor, I'd just laugh at you.
And the armor wasn't weakened on its head, nor did Diana hit it in a weak spot.
Trident is shit powered.
Getting destroyed by the lasso is pathetic
The high feats are only used to make Superman look good from the Probes (like you're doing here), yet for some strange reason they aren't applicable to the other dudes who destroyed them.
I think if an amped BL can lay one out, then a pissed off Thor could lay some out.
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Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Probably took days to defeat that one then.I realize. Just that the Doomsday scenario was supposed to be where he turned into a SS
In being gay
😂
Originally posted by pym-ftw
So Aquaman w/ Trident > the rest of Dc Combined apparently...
😂
Or can we agree to jobbing, especially on the Daximites...Owaw Superman is just Superman not holding back
Aquaman was amped, so I don't see your point.
Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Amped beyond their normal levels does not make a Superman level characterAnd the armor wasn't weakened on its head, nor did Diana hit it in a weak spot.
Trident is shit powered.
Getting destroyed by the lasso is patheticThe high feats are only used to make Superman look good from the Probes (like you're doing here), yet for some strange reason they aren't applicable to the other dudes who destroyed them.
I think if an amped BL can lay one out, then a pissed off Thor could lay some out.
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Superman already broke its hand and cauterized it before diana hit it with her shield at its head. How do I know its armor was weakened? Because before superman destroyed its hand and cauterized it, the same probe utterly no sold diana using an axe and aquaman punching at the same spot.
http://s673.photobucket.com/albums/vv95/galanphotos/?action=view¤t=probejla5.jpg
A skyfather level weapon.
Ah, an indestructible lasso which was held by a class 85 boosted tenfold. Quite pathetic I say.
dur
You can use them to look good if you like. Its not like anyone else besides superman and doomsday did it by themselves.
I can also say if Mordru and 100000 daxamites can't, then thor can't too. B13 technology is extremely powerful, it absorbed big bang. Before that BL and Supergirl combined couldn't do anything to it and neither could Earth angels.
Originally posted by pym-ftw
So Aquaman w/ Trident > the rest of Dc Combined apparently...
😂
Or can we agree to jobbing, especially on the Daximites...Owaw Superman is just Superman not holding back
Nope.
Which is when he starts oneshot killing high heralds.
Originally posted by abhilegendAnd that just makes the shield better than her axe. Stupid amazonians and their backwards weapon making skills.
Of course it doesn't.Superman already broke its hand and cauterized it before diana hit it with her shield at its head. How do I know its armor was weakened? Because before superman destroyed its hand and cauterized it, the same probe utterly no sold diana using an axe and aquaman punching at the same spot.
http://s673.photobucket.com/albums/vv95/galanphotos/?action=view¤t=probejla5.jpg
A skyfather level weapon.
Ah, an indestructible lasso which was held by a class 85 boosted tenfold. Quite pathetic I say.
dur
You can use them to look good if you like. Its not like anyone else besides superman and doomsday did it by themselves.
I can also say if Mordru and 100000 daxamites can't, then thor can't too. B13 technology is extremely powerful, it absorbed big bang. Before that BL and Supergirl combined couldn't do anything to it and neither could Earth angels.
Shitty weapon
She's not even a 1000 tonner then...
Me and you both know you don't think the lasso is impressive. Between Bizarro breaking it, and everybody and their retarded nephews escaping it, it really loses its effect
Some did it with standard tech, some did it with amps. WW did it with a shield bash...
Then WW, Hip, Aquaman, BL, and Superman shouldn't be able to either. It's a two way street.
Not all BL tech is the same. And it took a Pluto full of BL tech to absorb Imperiex. Not some random reactor shit or whatever the dickens BL used
Supergirl sucks too
Originally posted by Branlor Swift
And that just makes the shield better than her axe. Stupid amazonians and their backwards weapon making skills.
Doesn't make it weaker.Shitty weapon
She's not even a 1000 tonner then...
Me and you both know you don't think the lasso is impressive. Between Bizarro breaking it, and everybody and their retarded nephews escaping it, it really loses its effectSome did it with standard tech, some did it with amps. WW did it with a shield bash...
Then WW, Hip, Aquaman, BL, and Superman shouldn't be able to either. It's a two way street.
Not all BL tech is the same. And it took a Pluto full of BL tech to absorb Imperiex. Not some random reactor shit or whatever the dickens BL used
Supergirl sucks too
Yeah, it outperformed Ion amped Kyle rayner. That was the same probe who owned Kyle.
I'm talking in marvel terms. She is close to wonder woman in strength without gauntlet, ten times stronger than that is nothing to sneeze about.
LOL, now you're just getting desperate. Bizzaro breaking the lasso is a huge anomaly and what does escaping has to do with breaking it?
No one did it with standard tech. WW did after its armor was weakened.
Superman did it, none of the other could though.
Yeah, it only absorbed the big bang. 30 B13 nukes were also used as mean to help superman breach the armor of imperiex. BL absorbed one of those nukes. Not a low showing at all considering at his best BL can tap into the entire EM field of Earth and he was having no effect on the probe.
Typical bran tactic. Earth Angels suck too, I presume?
Originally posted by abhilegendThat's what happened
Nope, try again.Yeah, it outperformed Ion amped Kyle rayner. That was the same probe who owned Kyle.
I'm talking in marvel terms. She is close to wonder woman in strength without gauntlet, ten times stronger than that is nothing to sneeze about.
LOL, now you're just getting desperate. Bizzaro breaking the lasso is a huge anomaly and what does escaping has to do with breaking it?
No one did it with standard tech. WW did after its armor was weakened.
Superman did it, none of the other could though.
Yeah, it only absorbed the big bang. 30 B13 nukes were also used as mean to help superman breach the armor of imperiex. BL absorbed one of those nukes. Not a low showing at all considering at his best BL can tap into the entire EM field of Earth and he was having no effect on the probe.
Typical bran tactic. Earth Angels suck too, I presume?
Everyone's owned Kyle. Grayven casually blasted him back in that series.
So class 85 in Marvel terms equates to almost WW level?
Super desperate
Excuse me for wondering why someone is hyping up WW's lasso, when he's shit on it in the past
Since people can get out of the lasso without getting destroyed... unlike a Probe.
Everyone one of those characters outside BL can go grab the tech they used at anytime in a simple visit to their homes.
And the armor wasn't weakened.
Well, they did.
With a planet full of tech, not nukes.
30 nukes, Superman merged with Kismet, the OE, and an entire space armada. Although it said 30 hydrogen bombs, so I'm curious as to why they were Brain tech...
On that note, it said the engine in the tank (that BL used) was nuclear, so I'm also curious as to why that was an actual nuke, and why it was Brainiac tech.
Exactamundo. Canon fodder.
On another note, where was it stated that it was a probe that fought 100000 Daxamites?
