John McClane vs Bone (Blood and Bone)

It's a Michael Jai White movie. Pretty good too.

must be a straight to dvd movie then.

It was.

It's a shit film.

LoL, the Bone wanking. Bone is slow ass shit, as seen with the bargain-box fight choreography in this film where Bone's opponents are standing idle waiting for him to perform some move.

Mac is no speedster. And Bone aint slow:

YouTube video

Yup, his opponents are standing idle half the time waiting for White to perform his moves. The fighting was terribly done.

Mac vs Lerch, Lerch was doing the same and Mac couldn't handle him. He won, yes, as usual, but the H2H part Mac was failing.

But then that's Mac's character. Get beat down to the point of losing, then pulling a four leaf clover out of his butt and lol winning.

Originally posted by Robtard
LoL, the Bone wanking. Bone is slow ass shit, as seen with the bargain-box fight choreography in this film where Bone's opponents are standing idle waiting for him to perform some move.

The fight choreography in that film is one of the more realistic ones I've seen on a martial arts movie. You don't see heavy weight MMA fighters zip around the ring like featherweights as well. And if you want speed, the champion that Bone fought (Matt Mullins) was pretty darn fast as well. As fast as you can be without using movie-magic. Bone had no problems with him.

I also don't see UFC guys standing still in pose waiting for their opponent to perform a move. That's like WWE shit.

Guys like Chuck Liddell and Jr Does Santos were/are very fast, despite their "heavy weight" billings.

Knick knack paddy whack.

Originally posted by Robtard
I also don't see UFC guys standing still in pose waiting for their opponent to perform a move. That's like WWE shit.

Guys like Chuck Liddell and Jr Does Santos were/are very fast, despite their "heavy weight" billings.

There are lots of UFC matches where nothing happens for the first 2 mins simply because the fighters are still feeling each other out and do nothing but stand and bounce on their feet, maybe walk around a bit. The crowds don't like it, but it's a completely realistic scenario when two skilled fighters face off.

The only "stand in pose till attacked" portion of the movie I saw was the 1 vs. many fights. Obviously we don't have 1 vs. many fights in UFC. As for the one on one fights (which this thread is supposed to be) check back on my first paragraph.

Oh, and MJW moves faster than Dos Santos.

Originally posted by FrothByte
You probably don't watch much MMA then do you? There are matches where nothing happens for the first 2 mins simply because the fighters are still feeling each other out and do nothing but stand and bounce on their feet, maybe walk around a bit. The crowds don't like it, but it's a completely realistic scenario when two skilled fighters face off.

The only "stand in pose till attacked" portion of the movie I saw was the 1 vs. many fights. Obviously we don't have 1 vs. many fights in UFC. As for the one on one fights (which this thread is supposed to be) check back on my first paragraph.

Oh, and MJW moves faster than Dos Santos.

I watch all of it.

I watched that film once back in 2009, but I recall constantly thinking to myself how terrible and stupid the choreography was with guys standing still is pose for White to do a move.

Possible, the point though was that not all heavy fighters are slow lunks.

Originally posted by Robtard
I watch all of it.

I watched that film once back in 2009, but I recall constantly thingking to myself how terrible and stupid the choreography was with guys standing still is pose for White to do a move.

Possible, the point though was that not all heavy fighters are slow lunks.

Not all of them no. Prime Mike Tyson is a great example of a very agile heavy weight. But then comparing boxing speed to kicking speed is not really fair. Bone (or MJW) is actually pretty fast for a heavy weight. I'd say even faster than Chuck Liddell. Only reason he looks slower is:

1. He likes to do most of his moves with impunity for greater theatrical effect. Though when he does need to move fast (like his last fight with the champ) he can move and react fast.

2. Complicated flying and spinning kicks are obviously slower than the average high, low roundhouse kicks that you see in the UFC.

Regardless of all that, McClane is not a skilled fighter and is one or two weightclasses below Bone. As well as being at a reach disadvantage, and speed as well as power output and the like. He's simply outclassed in every way, and will get slaughtered in a h2h fight, or even a melee weapon fight.

McClane was having an off day in DH3. Terrible hangover for one.

McClane infinite damage soak and a lightning fast one shot Frazier style KO hook demonstrated twice in DH5.
And he closes range quick enough now to KO guys who blatantly have him covered with Machine guns.
Go see it.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
McClane was having an off day in DH3. Terrible hangover for one.

McClane infinite damage soak and a lightning fast one shot Frazier style KO hook demonstrated twice in DH5.
And he closes range quick enough now to KO guys who blatantly have him covered with Machine guns.
Go see it.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
McClane was having an off day in DH3. Terrible hangover for one.

McClane infinite damage soak and a lightning fast one shot Frazier style KO hook demonstrated twice in DH5.
And he closes range quick enough now to KO guys who blatantly have him covered with Machine guns.
Go see it.

If McClane has "infinite damage soak" simply because he wasn't knocked out in his films, then Bone is "unhurtable" simply because he was never hurt in his film. Heck, he's nigh untouchable even... unless McClane can do a spinning aerial kick as this was the only strike that got a solid hit on Bone. All of this of course via use of your logic.

Lol, the plot thickens.

Originally posted by FrothByte
If McClane has "infinite damage soak" simply because he wasn't knocked out in his films, then Bone is "unhurtable" simply because he was never hurt in his film. Heck, he's nigh untouchable even... unless McClane can do a spinning aerial kick as this was the only strike that got a solid hit on Bone. All of this of course via use of your logic.

Sadako uses logic? 😑