Originally posted by quanchi112
No, I succeeded. You know I'm right but won't admit it.You didn't.
Wrong.
Quan won and you never proved they didn't recover. You never even proved significant hampering injuries to Shang Tsung.
Wrong you failed. DSZ came back and beat you down
I did
Right
It's been proven and ignored as per your usual tactics. Quan won a tainted fight. Even if it wasn't tainted(it was) it does not mean he would win the next fight
Originally posted by juggermanHe showed up and cried about having to work for a,living.
Wrong you failed. DSZ came back and beat you downI did
Right
It's been proven and ignored as per your usual tactics. Quan won a tainted fight. Even if it wasn't tainted(it was) it does not mean he would win the next fight
You didn't..
Wrong.
Prove it was tainted.
Still 1-0. Dominated ***** Tsung.
Originally posted by juggermanHe cried about having a job. I laughed.
He proved you wrongDid
Right
Already done.
And? Sub Zero beat Scorpion twice. By your logic Scorpion can never beat SZ.... But wait..... 😂
Didn't.
Wrong.
No.
Sub Zero has his number then. Never said cant beat but clearly he's superior. Think for once.
Originally posted by quanchi112
He cried about having a job. I laughed.Didn't.
Wrong.
No.
Sub Zero has his number then. Never said cant beat but clearly he's superior. Think for once.
He proved you wrong. Again
Did
Right
Si
So clearly Sub Zero is superior then? Quan got a lucky win. Wouldn't be the case in an untainted fight
Personal opinion is Quan is stronger but Shang is more skilled and a better hand to hand fighter.
has anyone considered that Quan chi being stronger is all the amulet's doing? In MKSM before he had the amluet he had none of the moves we know him for from MK4.
Shang Tsung is the book smart kid who gets straight a's in school and can probably lecture to his teachers, but that's all he is. Nobody likes him, nobody listens to him, because they know he can't do much else besides solve every single equation thrown at him. Quan Chi is the clever kid who can manipulate/beat up everybody into doing what he wants. He's not an idiot, he's smart enough to know how to manipulate people and beat them up, and probably even does pretty well in school on his own. He's not as smart as the other kid, but he's a lot more feared and respected.
It's true, nobody respects Shang Tsung. Shao Kahn treats him like a toe rag, he's always getting beat by Liu Kang, and the only major accomplishment he has to his name is winning the Mortal Kombat tournament before Liu Kang got in the fray.
As opposed to Quan Chi who has his own league of netherworld assassins, an amulet which grants him immense power, and a place at the side of the most powerful enemy in the MK franchise, Shinnok. But wait! All those qualities are stolen, borrowed, and riding entirely on his remaining affiliated with other parties. Quan Chi has not done ONE THING on his own in the entire MK franchise. So yea, I'd say the manipulative bully persona fits him. But deep down, aren't all bullies kinda pathetic? After all, it's the nerds that get to be CEO later in life.
Originally posted by Darkstorm ZeroNo, you come here and cry about having to work. I don't care about how much you hate your job.
That's about all your arguments amount to these days. well, that and you fear my success, and you hate the fact that my time is too precious to spend tearing you apart repeatedly. You get owned once per argument from me, that is all that is required, get over it.
Quan Chi wins.
Originally posted by juggermanNo, he proved Hes unstable and hates working.
He proved you wrong. AgainDid
Right
Si
So clearly Sub Zero is superior then? Quan got a lucky win. Wouldn't be the case in an untainted fight
Did not.
Wrong.
Non.
Sub is superior. Quan destroyed him. Wasnt close. Shang isn't half the man Quan is.
Originally posted by quanchi112
No, you come here and cry about having to work. I don't care about how much you hate your job.Quan Chi wins.
Keep on trying to misrepresent my words, whatever helps you sleep better at night butterball. Because the nightmares of my success overshadow everything you do and you have no other way to cope.
Originally posted by Darkstorm ZeroOh dear. The I'm more successful than you routine. Look just lighten up.
Keep on trying to misrepresent my words, whatever helps you sleep better at night butterball. Because the nightmares of my success overshadow everything you do and you have no other way to cope.
Quan stole the amulet and defeated Shang Tsung. Undeniable.
Originally posted by quanchi112
*Snip the bullshit*Quan stole the amulet and defeated Shang Tsung. Undeniable.
#1: I've asked you, several times now, to actually demonstrate how this actually benefits Quan Chi in a combat situation. You repeatedly refuse, so you either cannot or will not. It is not a relevant point Quan, if you have a point to make with this somewhere then please make it or leave it. Stole it, burgled it, mugged it whatever. Quan Chi never actually snatched it out of Shinnok's hands and said "Mine". Shinnok hasn't had it since his fall from Elder God status.
#2: We never got to see who would have won that battle. The only thing we could determine from that fight would have been entirely conjecture. Quan was winning, no doubt, but he never got the win before Onaga appeared and spoiled his gleaming victory.
Originally posted by Darkstorm ZeroStole it by deceiving him. Doesn't help him out here but juggs disagreed and was wrong.
#1: I've asked you, several times now, to actually demonstrate how this actually benefits Quan Chi in a combat situation. You repeatedly refuse, so you either cannot or will not. It is not a relevant point Quan, if you have a point to make with this somewhere then please make it or leave it. Stole it, burgled it, mugged it whatever. Quan Chi never actually snatched it out of Shinnok's hands and said "Mine". Shinnok hasn't had it since his fall from Elder God status.#2: We never got to see who would have won that battle. The only thing we could determine from that fight would have been entirely conjecture. Quan was winning, no doubt, but he never got the win before Onaga appeared and spoiled his gleaming victory.
No, the narrator says Quan won and reveled in his conquest. Did you even see it ?
😂
Wow.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Stole it by deceiving him. Doesn't help him out here but juggs disagreed and was wrong.
Then why continue to argue an irrelevant point? Seriously, you argued just for the sake of nothing, and literally accomplished nothing, for a dozen or so pages.
Originally posted by quanchi112
No, the narrator says Quan won and reveled in his conquest. Did you even see it ?😂
Wow.
I've seen it. ok, so, Quan had a legit victory for all of about 5 seconds before Onaga's pretty much demonstrated badassery, and Tsung got up within those same 5 seconds and decided to tagteam again with Quan, and Raiden a few seconds after that.
Now, as I understand your logic, if we are going to go in character as you oh so clearly said is the only way you debate, then Quan Chi would never chose to kill Tsung, simply because he needs him.
Originally posted by Darkstorm ZeroI argued because he disagreed and was wrong. You're such a drama queen.
Then why continue to argue an irrelevant point? Seriously, you argued just for the sake of nothing, and literally accomplished nothing, for a dozen or so pages.I've seen it. ok, so, Quan had a legit victory for all of about 5 seconds before Onaga's pretty much demonstrated badassery, and Tsung got up within those same 5 seconds and decided to tagteam again with Quan, and Raiden a few seconds after that.
Now, as I understand your logic, if we are going to go in character as you oh so clearly said is the only way you debate, then Quan Chi would never chose to kill Tsung, simply because he needs him.
Onaga was amped. Context, kiddo. Quan had defeated him he didn't kill him.
It does not matter as Quan still wins. 😆
Originally posted by quanchi112
I argued because he disagreed and was wrong. You're such a drama queen.
No, I dislike people stirring shit for no reason. You are such a person who does this constantly everywhere you go, thus you are a troll.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Onaga was amped. Context, kiddo. Quan had defeated him he didn't kill him.
Irrelevant. Onaga was only really amped against Shujinko, cause that's the only time he had all the kamidogu. Secondly, Onaga literally bitched Shao Kahn, and is perhaps the only other survivor of Armageddon.
Originally posted by quanchi112
It does not matter as Quan still wins. 😆
*Sigh* I don't think anyone actually said Tsung wins. I know I didn't.
Originally posted by Darkstorm ZeroNo, it's how debates go. Please disagree you cry about it.
No, I dislike people stirring shit for no reason. You are such a person who does this constantly everywhere you go, thus you are a troll.Irrelevant. Onaga was only really amped against Shujinko, cause that's the only time he had all the kamidogu. Secondly, Onaga literally bitched Shao Kahn, and is perhaps the only other survivor of Armageddon.
*Sigh* I don't think anyone actually said Tsung wins. I know I didn't.
No, he was amped by the kamidogu in that scene. Kahn was the winner of Armageddon. So while Onaga flew him away Shao Kahn won. 😂
Juggerman thinks he wins. Quan wins.
Originally posted by quanchi112
No, it's how debates go. Please disagree you cry about it.
I disagree when you turn them into flamefests ad nauseum, and for no other reason than to stoke your ego and your post count.
Originally posted by quanchi112
No, he was amped by the kamidogu in that scene. Kahn was the winner of Armageddon. So while Onaga flew him away Shao Kahn won. 😂
What Kamidogu? the only one in that scene was the Amulet, and Quan had it
I never denied that Quan... Try reading what others write for once.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Juggerman thinks he wins. Quan wins.
Did he actually say this?
Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
Did he actually say this?
He did but quan of couse leaves out all reasoning behind it and hides behind his trollish ways.
I'd be more than happy to explain my reasoning to you if you'd indulge me a moment.
These are all points quan has ignored or failed to refute so far
1. Shang has shown much better fighting skill then Quan in the series. He fought and defeated countless warriors in the 9 tournaments he's won. He fought and defeated Lui Kang, something Quan Chi has never done. And in the MK-A opening we see a far inferior fighter, Jax, putting a hurting on Quan
Quan did do better against Raiden then Shang but he had another fighter to play off of and Raiden seems to know Shang better than he knows Quan. He witness the 9 MK's first hand and the 3 Outworld lost so he would be familiar with Shang's skills. Also i pointed out that #1 beating #2 and #3 beating #1 does not mean #3 would beat #2. A prime example of this is Ali/Fraizer/Foreman. Quan doing better against a 3rd party has no bearing on how he'd do against someone completely different.
2. Shang has shown much greater in fight magic than Quan whith the fire snake.
3. Quan Chi has a win over Shang but moments earlier Shang was thrashed by Raiden. He endured much more damage than Quan Chi. Hence my stance of this fight being tainted in Quan's favor.
Now trollchi seems to believe that the few seconds between the fights was ample time for Shang to have recovered but we see in MK9 that a few punches are enough to leave a person sidelined for quite a while like Sonya and Johnny after Sindel attacked or Johnny after Ermac whipped his ass. I'd imagine lightning from an enraged thunder god trying to kill you would take more than a few seconds to completely shake off.