Originally posted by ArtificialGlorySnake never held up a mech, Big Boss did in Peacewalker but it was a gameplay mechanic, just before that he was captured and held in chains, if he was legitimately able to old up a mechs leg he would of been able to break out
If he has no superhuman stats, then how the hell did he lift up that mech? It's absurdly stupid, but it happened.
But that's just more the reason why MGS is such a poorly written series
Originally posted by BloodRainLogan is fast enough to kill Snake almost instantly, Snake has never bullet timed, Snake is slower than Punisher is
Logan's not that fast, especially as Snake has bullet timing feats to boot. Speed is about equal.Probably straight too.
Logan for the bones and experience.
Snake couldn't break a pair of hand cuffs and was taken down by 3 soldiers
Wolverine can have no adamantium, no healing factor and normal stats and he would still kill Snake on pure skill alone
MGS characters are objectively some of the biggest pussies in fiction.
You obviously have some grudge against Snake.. which is strange but not uncommon around here.
I've seen the bullet timing clips posted, and strength feats. E.g. even with this muscle listening thing from.. whatever that guys call, even with that it would be a type of precog that allows him to preform supersonic feats. Which also means Snake tagged a guy with that bullet-timing precog. Compared to Logan who gets regularly outsped by a person with bullet-timing precog, Spider-Man.
Originally posted by BloodRainNo, I just have an obligation for the truth which I intend to fufill, the simple fact is I know more about this series than anyone on this site including you, what it's characters are capable of and where they stand next to other characters
You obviously have some grudge against Snake.. which is strange but not uncommon around here.I've seen the bullet timing clips posted, and strength feats. E.g. even with this muscle listening thing from.. whatever that guys call, even with that it would be a type of precog that allows him to preform supersonic feats. Which also means Snake tagged a guy with that bullet-timing precog. Compared to Logan who gets regularly outsped by a person with bullet-timing precog, Spider-Man.
You've seen bullet timing feats posted probably from the Twin Snakes which is non canon, I know everything about this series and I can tell you that in regular canon Snake does have not have a single strength or bullet timing feat that would put him in the peak human range.
The fact that you don't even know that the guy with the muscle listening "thing" name is Vamp shows that you have little to no knowledge of the character or series and shouldn't be posting here
The fact that you believe Vamp is anywhere near as fast as Spiderman proves that you're a bigger imbecile. Vamp has proven that without his muscle reading ability that he can't dodge bullets by himself, that's why he was grazed in the face by Raiden because he couldn't fully read his muscle movements. Vamp isn't a true bullet timer
Don't worry about it, I'll be more than happy to educate you, just let me know if you have any other questions. Just try not to post anymore since you'll look like a tool like Nemebro
Originally posted by AuraAngelObjective in the sense that no one has been able to prove otherwise
Lol "objectively."
Originally posted by NemeBroNot sure who Scourge is but Snake couldn't break those cuffs without them getting damaged. It still took several minutes.
He did break those cuffs.It's so painfully obvious that you are scourge's sock. What a pussy, socking and trying to troll after I crushed him on this site. You and your assmad shenanigans.
Originally posted by Chozone
No, I just have an obligation for the truth which I intend to fufill, the simple fact is I know more about this series than anyone on this site including you, what it's characters are capable of and where they stand next to other charactersYou've seen bullet timing feats posted probably from the Twin Snakes which is non canon, I know everything about this series and I can tell you that in regular canon Snake does have not have a single strength or bullet timing feat that would put him in the peak human range.
The fact that you don't even know that the guy with the muscle listening "thing" name is Vamp shows that you have little to no knowledge of the character or series and shouldn't be posting here
The fact that you believe Vamp is anywhere near as fast as Spiderman proves that you're a bigger imbecile. Vamp has proven that without his muscle reading ability that he can't dodge bullets by himself, that's why he was grazed in the face by Raiden because he couldn't fully read his muscle movements. Vamp isn't a true bullet timer
Don't worry about it, I'll be more than happy to educate you, just let me know if you have any other questions. Just try not to post anymore since you'll look like a tool like Nemebro
And the second game as FA said. Spider-Man has bullet timing feats (reactions) but he can't move around at that speed. Sub-sonic movements, movements which outspeed Logan.
Also note your words here; 'Vamp isn't a true bullet timer' though with his ability he is. An ability he had when Snake tagged him.
Now I've refrained from insulting you, I ask the same from you before we fall to childish levels. Good?
Originally posted by BloodRainThere is no bullet timing feat in the second game as FA said either, it can be proven frame for frame.
Even though the first things you said in three Snake threads something negative about him, for absolutely no reason? And you may or may not, I don't really care about that or any of the verses present in this tread. Its just X character with Y feats.And the second game as FA said. Spider-Man has bullet timing feats (reactions) but he can't move around at that speed. Sub-sonic movements, movements which outspeed Logan.
Also note your words here; 'Vamp isn't a true bullet timer' though with his ability he is. An ability he had when Snake tagged him.Now I've refrained from insulting you, I ask the same from you before we fall to childish levels. Good?
Vamp cannot move at sub sonic speeds either so I'm not sure why you keep bringing it up, at no point in the game did he ever move at sub sonic speeds.
Vamp's abilitiy was partially nullified by Snake's sneaking suit just like it was nullified by Raiden's suit.
Originally posted by Chozone
Objective in the sense that no one has been able to prove otherwise.
Well, objectively there is a lot of fiction. Objectively it's reasonable to assume that if MGS characters did only have normal human stats(since their military they wouldn't) then they are still likely to be stronger than many other universes by virtue of them having guns.
Objectivity is a bold claim, particularly when you're obviously not doing it. Objective people don't go out of their way to call variables pussies since objectively there is nothing to gain from that.