DBZ: Battle of Gods

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Even if we assume those are legit lasers, you wouldn't need to be FTL to dodge them.

Originally posted by carver9
Lasers, 100's of them...he's dodging every last one of them at super speed. That's clearly FTL.
I don't really get it. We assuming dodging lasers make people lightspeed? Shit load of light speedsters out there.

Originally posted by Zack Fair
For that short moment yes.

How if he tried to sustain it longer would it have ripped him apart?

I dunno. He just never used it again.

Originally posted by Zack Fair
I dunno. He just never used it again.

Fail on Akira for only giving us 1 second of it for 294 episodes.

For some reason it makes sense for a technique like that to only be used in a filler saga.

Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
For some reason it makes sense for a technique like that to only be used in a filler saga.

What to make us watch it?

just to use it once for 3 seconds without having worry about explaining shit.

Basically Fan Service.

Any estimates or ideas on his power level with that attack? Above SS2 but less then SS3?

SS1 + KK (x2 at base) = Twice as strong as SS1

SS2 = Twice as strong as SS1

KK at base makes him twice as strong. Seeing as SS2 is twice as strong as SS1, this would be at the same level as a SS2 attack.

Wasn't he already SS2

I thought he was SSJ2 when he went Kaioken but I could be mistaken.

It looks like he is SS2, so if he went SKK, then he would be equal wiith SS3 at that moment?

I wonder which uses/drains more power SKK or SS3

Ahhhh well then yes, he's be exactly between SS2 and SS3, 3 being 4x SS2.

Both forms would be rapidly draining Ki, but the SKK form would also be putting a strain on his body. Not to mention that it may be more taxing to use it with SS2, making it drain faster (as a half idea to why he doesn't/can't use it in canon)

From what I can tell, Goku was a regular SSJ when he fought Pikkon, not a SSJ2:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTepZei1Qwo

However, he logically would have still possessed power equal to a SSJ2(at the very least), given that he was roughly equal to Pikkon, and Pikkon wtfpwned Perfect Cell with 2 casual strikes:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYcEvG3rvl0

That said, when Goku utilized a base SKK, he would have become roughly 2x more powerful than a SSJ2, and roughly 2x less powerful than a SSJ3(as a SSJ3 is 4x > SSJ2.)

^ Galan, I don't think its fair to compare Pikkon to Cell, when Cell didn't seem like he powered up to SS2.

Given that Cell was in the process of attacking Goku before Pikkon intervened, it seems logical that he would have been powered up for a few reasons:
a.) Cell had fought Goku before.
b.) Cell is intimately familiar with a Saiyan's ability to become more powerful after sustaining massive injury.
c.) Cell [obviously] knew that Goku endured the exact same explosion/detonation that had immensely powered him up. Therefore, he would have also known that Goku had become much more powerful since their last battle.

Cell is many things, but dumb isn't one of them. That said, I do believe Pikkon owned a SSJ2-level-being with a mere 2 strikes-- and SSJ Goku was on par with Pikkon. That is uber as hell any way you slice it.

^ The last sentence hurts my head.

I believe Pikkon is strong as or more so than SSJ1 and he got the best of Cell due to speed blitz. Most of Pikkon techniques are unique to Earth. Instead of energy balls, he produced some sort of flames, which dealt massive damage to Goku. His attack reminds me of "Dragon Rage" from Pokemon, where it equally hits everyone 40 damage.

Adding more to Cell defense, he was blitz and sent to the river, which we don't know the properties in it does.

Perfect Cell, who was already SSJ2-level before Gohan killed him, was owned with a meager 2 strikes from Pikkon(physical strikes are not unique to Pikkon, btw-- they use 'em on earth too. 😛)

Anyway, based on what we know:
Pikkon=/>SSJ Goku>Perfect Cell=/>SSJ2 Gohan.
^^That might make fanboys cringe, but where the anime is concerned, it is fact.

But remember: those episodes are ultimately nothing more than non-canon filler. Hell, Pikkon isn't even a canon manga character (unfortunately.)

I really hate to say this but from the looks of it, this movie indicates that Vegeta will likely be thrown in the background with the other allies after this movie.