Originally posted by Galan007Next page bump.
YouTube videoMakes me more and more eager for an english-dub(enhanced by Faulconer's scores, of course) every time I see something like this. droolio
Also, Goku's line toward the end of that clip made me lol. "The F*ck?!" Heh.
Originally posted by Ridley_PrimeHopefully not before it's seen by shit-tons of people. 🥷
👆Wonder how long that'll get removed from youtube like the one where Vegeta went berserk on Bills with his SSJ theme....
Originally posted by dadudemonAfraid not.
So what you're saying is somewhere between the Cell Saga and this new movie, the characters went from star-system busters to galaxy busters?I completely agree.
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I'm not sure why you are so upset, nor am I certain of how you can obviously be throwing a hissyfit, while accusing me of having a malicious agenda and raging against something he dislikes (Aka, what you are doing), without a hint of irony, is frankly staggering.
You're wrong.
Originally posted by Galan007
Did they need to draw billions of stars and trillions of planets in the film for you to realize that the galaxy was not completely erased, as the opening scene depicted? We saw planets in the south galaxy. We saw stars in the south galaxy. I mean, the notion that the thousands of stars we observed from within the south galaxy were actually in a different galaxy, is one hell of a stretch given that we saw Goku whizzing right by dozens of these stars whilst IT'ing through the south galaxy.Simply put: the opening scene depicted the south galaxy being completely erased(literally nothing was left.) Yet it was soon revealed that there were still stars and planets left intact. That much alone contradicts the opening scene. It was a prophecy of events to come IF Broly weren't stopped. Nothing more, imo.
And once again: if you're going to credit restrained Broly with galaxy-busting, then you MUST be willing to put base Goku at that level as well. If you're not willing to do that, then you clearly don't have faith in your own argument.
Originally posted by dadudemon
Well, no, the exact opposite would be true: it wasn't destroyed.
Originally posted by dadudemon
Well, no, that wouldn't be true, either. Even in the dead of space, you cannot really see other galaxies. You have to have high-powered, highly advanced technology to see all that other stuff. Galactic systems, they cannot be. Local stars inside the South Galaxy? Yes, they can definitely be that.
Originally posted by dadudemon
Additionally, the planet Goku visits has plenty of light. A local star was still around.
Originally posted by dadudemon
I partially agree. I just think it was a visual PIS thing. Wasn't intended to show the galaxy getting destroyed. It is possible that it is not PIS and it was just a vision of King Kai. He is technically a demi-god so he MAY have precognitive abilities. I really hate having to explain away PIS and/or plotholes.
Originally posted by dadudemon
lol, ROFL, you certainly don't pull punches.
Originally posted by NemeBro
Afraid not.I'm not sure why you are so upset, nor am I certain of how you can obviously be throwing a hissyfit, while accusing me of having a malicious agenda and raging against something he dislikes (Aka, what you are doing), without a hint of irony, is frankly staggering.
You're wrong.
"You're butthurt, lulz."
"No, you're butthurt. lulz."
Face it, you got called out for sh*tting up the thread, you got butthurt, move on. 🙂
Originally posted by TheGodKiller
I disagree, because it's inconclusive. We've already established that the subs can, at times, be funky in the way they narrate everything that's going on.
I'm pretty sure seeing thousands of stars in the sky makes it pretty dang conclusive.
Originally posted by TheGodKiller
Wrong. Even in the dead of space, one can see galaxies and I'd go so far as to say entire galactic clusters. They just appear indifferentiable from all the other bright dots in the black sky.
Wrong, when you get to space (not far from earth), you cannot see the stars. The sun is just too bright.
http://www.dearastronomer.com/2011/06/03/visibility-of-stars-from-the-moon/
In order to experience all those other galaxies (most, not all...Andromeda is visible), you need some high-tech stuff.
Or, you need to be so far from a star that its light doesn't cause all the other stars to turn "invisible." We haven't done that, yet, with a human. It's possible we did that with the Voyager craft.
Originally posted by TheGodKiller
Which again is not conclusive proof that the galaxy wasn't destroyed
Incorrect: the galaxy was not destroyed because...damn, it's like a broken record, now. You'll get nothing but copy and paste, from now on. You're inexorbly incorrect. Nothing you post will change that. You have evidence for your eyes, too, from Galan. You're so absurdly wrong about this that there is no point in arguing it with you...
Originally posted by TheGodKiller
Except King Kai was talking about the current danger spreading at a quick rate to his galaxy. That hardly sounds like a prophetic pondering.
Nope, sounds prophetic. Perfectly prophetic, even...if we go with the Japanese dialogue. 🙂
Originally posted by TheGodKiller
I taught him all his tricks. Galan is my herald.
If that's true, then he picked up how to argue facts along the way, somewhere.
The problem with basing your entire opinion solely on the opening scene is that is was contradicted.
We initially see the entire south galaxy:
Soon thereafter it fades into absolute nothingness:
If you ignore the Jap-dialogue entirely, this gives the impression that Broly destroyed absolutely everything in that galaxy(all planets, all stars, all clusters, etc.)
Yet as my previous evidence beautifully showcases: Broly did not destroy the galaxy proper, because there were several planets and thousands of stars still intact(just that we saw) in the wake of his 'rampage'. Heck, Broly didn't even bother to destroy one of the planets he'd personally visited. :/
In a nutshell: the opening scene was blatantly contradicted by later happenings in the film itself, thus making it an inadmissible piece of evidence as it pertains to Broly's 'galaxy-busting-powa'... Little more than a prophecy of things to come if he weren't stopped.
Originally posted by TheGodKillerHoHoHaHaHeHe.
I taught him all his tricks. Galan is my herald.
Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
I'll use the quote feature more often then...
Good. Then you'll have a lot harder of a time trying to backpeddle in the future when I call out a bad argument of yours. awesome
Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
Yeah, what King Kai said and showed about Broly was basically what would or might have happened in the South Galaxy if he had not been stopped.
My man. 👆
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I don't think so. If I do, I haven't been on in a while. Is it any good?
Meh, your love of Fairy Tail made me think you were some dude on that site.
Originally posted by dadudemon
I'm pretty sure seeing thousands of stars in the sky makes it pretty dang conclusive.Wrong, when you get to space (not far from earth), you cannot see the stars. The sun is just too bright.
http://www.dearastronomer.com/2011/06/03/visibility-of-stars-from-the-moon/
In order to experience all those other galaxies (most, not all...Andromeda is visible), you need some high-tech stuff.
Or, you need to be so far from a star that its light doesn't cause all the other stars to turn "invisible." We haven't done that, yet, with a human. It's possible we did that with the Voyager craft.
Incorrect: the galaxy was not destroyed because...damn, it's like a broken record, now. You'll get nothing but copy and paste, from now on. You're inexorbly incorrect. Nothing you post will change that. You have evidence for your eyes, too, from Galan. You're so absurdly wrong about this that there is no point in arguing it with you...
Nope, sounds prophetic. Perfectly prophetic, even...if we go with the Japanese dialogue. 🙂
If that's true, then he picked up how to argue facts along the way, somewhere.
Yes, do explain why Goku was just blitzing around the Sun instead of scouring space in search of the Legendary Saiyan.
Who's talking anything about experiencing? I am talking strictly about a bunch of bright dots(stars, constellations, galaxies) being visible in a black void.
What the phuck does the voyager craft have anything to do with Goku scouring the worlds in search of a mad mutant saiyian?
Then do us both a favor and stop replying.
Doesn't sound prophetic at all. He talked about what might happen to his own galaxy at the rate things were spiraling out of control. That clearly means that a very big chunk(nearly all of it) of the South galaxy had already been destroyed by that point.
Originally posted by Galan007
The problem with basing your entire opinion solely on the opening scene is that is was contradicted.We initially see the entire south galaxy:
Soon thereafter it fades into absolute nothingness:
If you ignore the Jap-dialogue entirely, this gives the impression that Broly destroyed absolutely everything in that galaxy(all planets, all stars, all clusters, etc.)Yet as my previous evidence beautifully showcases: Broly did not destroy the galaxy proper, because there were several planets and thousands of stars still intact(just that we saw) in the wake of his 'rampage'. Heck, Broly didn't even bother to destroy one of the planets he'd personally visited. :/
In a nutshell: the opening scene was blatantly contradicted by later happenings in the film itself, thus making it an inadmissible piece of evidence as it pertains to Broly's 'galaxy-busting-powa'... Little more than a prophecy of things to come if he weren't stopped.
HoHoHaHaHeHe.
Just label it a stupid PIS showing and get on with it. It in no way inflates Broly beyond the herald-lite category that he really is at. I did. It's worked out perfectly fine for me.
