Saints Row IV

Originally posted by Nemesis X

Wouldn't the same be said about GTA?

lol, no, not at all, every time they make a game they improve most aspects of the game from the graphics to the gameplay, granted the shooting mechanics have never really been great, they also dont release their games annually and just copy and paste the previous game into the next - Leon

SR2 did stand out as one of the better entries but it's not the only good SR as IV is good as well but you wouldn't know that since you didn't actually play it.

i dont need to play it as i can see it plays and looks like sr3 but its ripping off the matrix sort of and prototype - Leon

Ironically, Prototype is a rip-off itself as it took those power sprints, jumps and glides from Incredible Hulk: Ultimate Destruction. Despite that, you still like Prototype, ya friggin hypocrite. Also, getting health from civilians is an upgrade you can choose whether to unlock or not and I bet you didn't know that since you didn't play the game. It's really stupid you think you can actually criticize something without first giving it a try. What are you, a kid at a dinner table? Eat the broccoli already and determine then if it tastes like ass. Only then will you have a respectable opinion.

prototype was made by the exact same developers radical (if you dont know, im presuming you dont) as the hulk game they used the same engine so no they never ripped their own game off, do some research.-Leon
Also, upgrade or not, its still the basis that those powers are ripped of from Radicals powers, Prototype, Prototype 2 & Incredible Hulk: Ultimate Destruction all of which use the same engine. No rip offs their, if their using basic powers from their own game its acceptable, but if it was from another dev's work, unacceptable and lazy. saints row is very lazy an just silly.
im not missing the point of the game, but their is no 'fun' to it, the stories terrible, the customization it just killed dead, driving is god awful, shooting mechanics are average, and i dont comment on the graphics of games as it doesnt matter, but they could up the ante on it considering todays standard of graphics. - Leon

Originally posted by LeonBuco666
lol, no, not at all, every time they make a game they improve most aspects of the game from the graphics to the gameplay, granted the shooting mechanics have never really been great, they also dont release their games annually and just copy and paste the previous game into the next

Which is basically SR4 as it didn't take as much from SR3 as you like to think.

i dont need to play it as i can see it plays and looks like sr3 but its ripping off the matrix sort of and prototype

Just looking at something doesn't always make something as they appear and it looks like the matrix to parody the movies. Seriously, how can you not get these games? You're more clueless than the Daily Planet trying to figure out who Superman is if you can't even figure out something is created just for laughs.

prototype was made by the exact same developers radical (if you dont know, im presuming you dont) as the hulk game they used the same engine so no they never ripped their own game off, do some research.

It doesn't matter if Protototype and Ultimate Destruction are developed by the same people. I can be as silly as you and say Prototype is a copy and paste and Radical was making a sad attempt to relive the glory days and if I want to play a game that had mayhem, I would go dust off my old Xbox and go tear shite up than play that wannabe game.

upgrade or not, its still the basis that those powers are ripped of from Radicals powers, Prototype, Prototype 2 & Incredible Hulk: Ultimate Destruction all of which use the same engine. No rip offs their, if their using basic powers from their own game its acceptable, but if it was from another dev's work, unacceptable and lazy. saints row is very lazy an just silly.

You're still missing the point and empty claim it's lazy is empty.

im not missing the point of the game, but their is no 'fun' to it, the stories terrible, the customization it just killed dead, driving is god awful, shooting mechanics are average, and i dont comment on the graphics of games as it doesnt matter, but they could up the ante on it considering todays standard of graphics.

You said you didn't even play the game and yet you're criticizing all of that. You're judgement is awful as you're just shooting in the dark here with your empty claims. Whatever dignity you have, keep what's left and stop talking. For the love of everything, just stop.

I do get the games its over the top mayhem, tbh i enjoyed sr2 sr3 was fun for a couple hours, sr4 just isnt appealing to me.
Its abit to late to be doing a parody of something a decade old, im not a hater, ill probably play the game, but i may not enjoy it.
Yes radical used the same engine for both games so they never ripped anything of they just copy and pasted, just has saints row has done with sr3 and 4 but what ever

Originally posted by LeonBuco666
I do get the games its over the top mayhem, tbh i enjoyed sr2 sr3 was fun for a couple hours, sr4 just isnt appealing to me.

If you don't want to play it, that's fine but don't go giving a game shit if you have yet to try it out.

Its abit to late to be doing a parody of something a decade old

Blood Dragon proves otherwise.

@Nemesis X: I approve of all the comments you've made <.< But I don't want to get into an argument with anyone. Just had to give props to the person who actually played the game they're commenting on.

SR4 for me had a lot of pros and cons. Since making lists usually leaves me feeling wanting like I'm missing something, I'll just post a few things below, jumping between likes and dislikes.
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I liked that they gave you some closure with killing Cyrus though that kind of implies that you went with the parody ending in SR3. I personally went with the one in which Shaundi, Cyrus, and a few others died -- but that's not that big of a deal. It really wasn't made as an RPG, to my knowledge anyways.
Zero Saints Thirty was an awesome prologue personally but I don't like that once again, the gender default was made male. With SR3, dressing as the giant Johnny Gat Mascot at least gave a bit of chance that it was a girl inside. This time, absolutely no chance. This isn't huge of course -- but I don't get to feel like it's me because of that. For this reason, SR3 and SR4 both lost points for me with SR4 being slightly higher on point loss.
I like how they broadened the details for characters which now lets me go more in depth with character customization. However, I don't like how they remove voices to maintain a 3 voice maximum per gender (and no zombie voice this time O_o why!?)
Could have gone much more in depth as president. The entire thing just made me feel like a figure head. This doesn't effect the gameplay so I still enjoy it of course. I just don't see any difference between this and being a gang leader anymore.
Now we get into the open world itself. I loved the customization with clothing and weapons. Being able to freely customize your weapons appearance was great. A tad bit disappointing that it lost the physical change in appearance for weapon upgrades though.
Being in the simulation itself, I really did feel like I was in the matrix. Now, while most people get upset about this, I love it. Being able to run up walls, shoot into the air, jump not just from roof top to roof top but jumping an entire building in a single go is just brilliant -- love it. Makes me feel special.

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And the power armor joke at the end that brought it all together to make use of the powers for the storyline was lovely.

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after Earth was blown up

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-Kinzie: The one member of your gang in this that they saw to you truly just getting very in depth with. If you weren't attached to Kinzie during SR3, you should definitely be after SR4 (if you're not still pissed at her for all the hacking missions).
-Keith: All I could think with him was "Sup Julius?" lol.
-Matt: WHYYYYYYY!!??
-Shaundi: While I don't like that they brought back 2 Shaundi's, the original and the new one, I like how the Loyalty mission changed Shaundi's perspective a bit. Felt nice to see that she loosened up, even if only a little.
-Pierce: Well.. F#*@ Pierce. Lol, but really. Pierce returning was good for me. Love his recruitment mission. Everyone loves Paul.
-King: Not memorable enough from SR1 for me to much care that he's back. I mean, he was memorable from the game, but that they didn't mention him during 2 or 3 left a bit to be desired.
-Asha: Leaves a lot to be desired. Was a disappointing character for me.
-Johnny Mother#@*($@% Gat: THANK THE SAINTS FLOW GODS for the return of this beloved homicidal gang banger. Gat's return was a sigh of relief and I like how they actually went and tied everything together. His return didn't make a plothole. How Johnny got super powers though was a bit of a disappointment.

Overall, I rate Saints Row IV with an 8/10. I recommend it for anyone who finds themselves wanting an Open World Game with both serious and hilarious moments and for people who were a fan of the series. If you didn't enjoy SR3 but did enjoy SR2, then I can't really recommend SR4 for you and if you disliked SR 1, 2, and 3 then... well I don't really know why you're here and I don't recommend it for you.

It doesnt, IMO anyway.

Blood Dragon was ****ing awesome. I play almost no shooters, but damn that game is one of the few.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Blood Dragon was ****ing awesome. I play almost no shooters, but damn that game is one of the few.

That's the sorta FPS, That i like to play

glad they're making a comeback.

One of the most disappointing things I came across in the game are my homies acquiring superpowers and they all have the same set, nothing to tell them apart. Everyone has telekinesis, sprint and what looks like the hadoken. They have no exclusive moves, none of them altered to match their themes even. Asha Odekar, for example, gets these same destructive abilities which doesn't fit with her as she's more that special agent who prefers Metal Gear/Splinter Cell stealth-type of action and doesn't carelessly charge into battle guns ablazing so it would've made sense if she was a cyborg ninja or something. I just wish the developers were a little more creative because I quickly realized how pointless completing most of the loyalty missions were for they all had the same tasteless reward of copy and pasting. Even the bosses and henchmen I fought had the same powers as the Saints Leader. That is just lazy.

This game is such a ****ing blast.

I generally get bored by open-world games pretty quickly (GTA and Skyrim), but I can't get over just how fun this game is. Every time I start doing a mission I get completely distracted by about 20 other things on the way.

Also, personally, I adore how completely blatantly and unashamedly they rip off other things. Movies and books are rarely original, so why do we expect games to be? Yes, it rips off the Matrix and Mass Effect and Crackdown and Prototype and Starfox and I've caught some Star Wars quotes. Who the **** cares? It does so in a way that works. I'm a huge fan of the Matrix, it's one of my favorite movies, so I love that the game is using that style so heavily.

So much fun. I don't like shooters and I don't like open world sandboxes normally, but this game is a rare one where I can spend the whole evening playing and not notice.

Also, two words. DUBSTEP GUN. I have never had more fun with a weapon in a game.

I'm really surprised by this game. After being disappointed with Saints 3 I wasn't expecting Saints Row 4 having me excited to keep playing. Saints Row 2 had an incredible combination of humor, activities and a well written story. Saints Row 3, although polished, felt linear and became incredibly monotonous very early on. I was also against the level ups. Being able to level up you character to invincibility and acquire endless ammo ruined co-op for me.

I'm not sure what makes Saints row 4 more enjoyable over 3 for me because all of the same things that made 3 a lackluster exience for me are still there. However, in stead of removing more of the things that made the game good they left everything and added more. Maybe it's return good writing and smart humor. I like how the game blatantly takes elements from the other super popular sandbox games like, Crackdown and prototype. It doesn't feel like they're trying to outdo those games or become like them but rather complimenting them.

Originally posted by Kazenji
YouTube video

Is it me, or does that dude look like Sean Penn in the beginning.

Originally posted by Peach
This game is such a ****ing blast.

I generally get bored by open-world games pretty quickly (GTA and Skyrim), but I can't get over just how fun this game is. Every time I start doing a mission I get completely distracted by about 20 other things on the way.

Also, personally, I adore how completely blatantly and unashamedly they rip off other things. Movies and books are rarely original, so why do we expect games to be? Yes, it rips off the Matrix and Mass Effect and Crackdown and Prototype and Starfox and I've caught some Star Wars quotes. Who the **** cares? It does so in a way that works. I'm a huge fan of the Matrix, it's one of my favorite movies, so I love that the game is using that style so heavily.

So much fun. I don't like shooters and I don't like open world sandboxes normally, but this game is a rare one where I can spend the whole evening playing and not notice.

Also, two words. DUBSTEP GUN. I have never had more fun with a weapon in a game.

^ This. Also, some of the 80s humor was really well appreciated. The amount of nods, homages, and easter eggs was very pleasant and already I'm considering a replay. It also somehow compelled me to get all the collectibles, which I haven't done in a game since.... ever.

A new expansion coming out next year.

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Its going to be a standalone expansion, It won't require a copy of Saints Row 4 to play.

Okay soooo, in a moment of WTFery, the Saints are using a Ouja board to see who Boss will marry/f*ck/kill, and Satan spells out the name of his daughter Jezebelle. Then he sucks him into Hell for a Shotgun Wedding. Gat and Kinzie go down to Hell to bring him back/shoot Satan in the face. And Dane Vogel helps you out.

So it's basically SRIV but you're playing as Gat or Kinzie and I'm assuming you're using an updated or similar superhero type gameplay.

Eh, I'll still play it. More mindless fun is always fun.

Originally posted by Nemesis X
A new expansion coming out next year.

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There's suppose to be a complete collection for the 4th game with all the DLC which has been released, Saints Row 4 National Treasure Edition

i've yet to see it here.

Originally posted by Kazenji
There's suppose to be a complete collection for the 4th game with all the DLC which has been released, Saints Row 4 National Treasure Edition

Note to self: don't buy anything the year before the Xbox Two and PS5 come out.

You just do that and wait for those consoles.