Skynet vs. The Matrix

Originally posted by Robtard
Keep fishing for that red herring, Quanchi.

/derp Your butthurt is showing again; stop trying to derail the thread cos of it.

Originally posted by quanchi112
The tactic can't work for the same reason it didn't work in it's own universe. You say wah the villains can't win but in the matrix they never lost.

And you segued that red herring right into a strawman. Bravo?

Unless you're willing to address the points I was talking about; not the ones you're making up, you're just derailing and trolling.

Originally posted by Robtard
And you segued that red herring right into a strawman. Bravo?

Unless you're willing to address the points I was talking about; not the ones you're making up, you're just derailing and trolling.

Quan has always been rather slow, IMO he actually thinks that he's addressing your points, rather than trolling.

Originally posted by Robtard
And you segued that red herring right into a strawman. Bravo?

Unless you're willing to address the points I was talking about; not the ones you're making up, you're just derailing and trolling.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Quan has always been rather slow, IMO he actually thinks that he's addressing your points, rather than trolling.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I have addressed all your points and destroyed them. You do this all the time. You concede and begin pouting.

Expected dance and "concession" nonsense. /derp

Originally posted by Robtard
Expected dance and "concession" nonsense. /derp

Actually, on second look at the OP, it says:

Originally posted by FrothByte
...So Skynet decides to break the truce, invade the domain controlled by the Matrix, and attacks Zion with every robotic force it has...The Matrix retaliates by sending all of it's sentinels against Skynet...

Basically, given a literal take on the OP stips, now I'm not sure who would win. But if all advantages were allowed, I could see Skynet taking this, mainly because of a potentially game-ending first strike at the right target via time travel. If any clean-up operation was required, then EMPs could be used.

But as stated by the OP: I just don't know. Maybe still the Matrix, because all Sentinels can fly (HKs can, but not Terminators), they're fast and agile, and they may hold the numbers advantage.

I'm pretty sure the OP misremembered where the machines the Matrix universe were. There would be absolutely no reason for Skynet to attack Zion unless that is the location of Machine City in this combined universe. Either way nukes are a huge advantage for Skynet if allowed but they cannot win if it comes down to Terminators vs Squids

Originally posted by juggerman
I'm pretty sure the OP misremembered where the machines the Matrix universe were. There would be absolutely no reason for Skynet to attack Zion unless that is the location of Machine City in this combined universe. Either way nukes are a huge advantage for Skynet if allowed but they cannot win if it comes down to Terminators vs Squids

Skynet is smarter since it actually invented a time displacement machine, this is exactly some twisted machine problem solving method: fix the problems at their source.

Originally posted by Bentley
Skynet is smarter since it actually invented a time displacement machine, this is exactly some twisted machine problem solving method: fix the problems at their source.

This..

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Originally posted by Mindship
Perhaps a more precisely worded OP in "Skynet vs Matrix v.2" would take care of any "ambiguities."

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Originally posted by Bentley
Skynet is smarter since it actually invented a time displacement machine, this is exactly some twisted machine problem solving method: fix the problems at their source.

Originally posted by Robtard
The T-800, T-1000 and TX failed in their missions, that doesn't discount that time travel in of itself worked, as people/things were successfully sent back in time.

Using the T-units failure to complete a mission as a means to say the invention itself is unimpressive is little more than a Red Herring. It doesn't negate that inventing time travel is arguably far above the invention a of super virtual reality, in terms of technology.

Let me ask you something, if Skynet's goal was to send Arnold back in time and rob a gun store and nothing else, would Skynet's invention of time travel be somehow more technologically impressive on that merit alone? The invention and the missions are two separate things.

Sorry for the late response.

I agree that time travel is a fantastic feat of science. And Terminator models are also impressive.
But my point was that both Machine teams had different goals.
And my other point was that the Matrix team had the resistance dangling on a fishing wire.
Whereas Skynet constantly struggled against the humans regardless of their accomplishments.

And considering how easy it is for humans to capture Terminators and hack them to serve their goals it would only be a matter of time before they are reverse engineered to serve the Matrix team...but with better AI!

Should be noted that if not for Neo making the truce with the Deus, Zion would have been indisputably FUBARed, whereas the humans always posed a challenging threat to Skynet.

That's not true at all. Humanity was close to extinction until John ****ing Connor came along.

Closed at the request of the thread starter.