^ He said stop Juggs. The thing here is that on panel we all see Cain plow War hulk through a stretch of arid land. In WW Hulk Cain was not able to plow him.
Bruce told Cain that he wasn't there for him, and that he should get out of the way. There was no admittance to stopping him, or beating him, he simply removed him as one would remove a chess piece from the board.
Originally posted by Dampyre
It is silly because skyfathers and cosmic beings can amplify their strength to levels far beyond the likes of Doomsday and the Juggernaut.
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Odin can amp his strength up to Surtur levels...
All Odin has to do is kill or KO each once to achieve a victory; he is fully capable of doing that while in Giant Size...
Originally posted by Stoic
More like the story wasn't about Cain, nor were the Hulk's motives about beating him. They were about collecting Xavier, and he could have, and would have, and Cain could do nothing to stop it. That's what happened.
Yeah, so the hulk thought challenging Cain would be pointless and moved aside. I think Cain's momentum carried him into a lake. LOL but WWH used his brains instead of his strength.
Originally posted by Dampyre
It is silly because skyfathers and cosmic beings can amplify their strength to levels far beyond the likes of Doomsday and the Juggernaut.
This is comics dude. We go off what is shown and not what we want to be true.
You have to prove that Odin can amp his strength beyond Doomsday. Then you have to also prove that Odin can match DD's speed and claws.
Prime example, Zeus (who is arguably Odin's peer) hasn't shown shit in the physical department. He amped his size to lift a mountain (still didn't look easy either). He fought and beat Hulk in a way that makes me approximate his might (under HP DD level).
Lastly it seems Odin, Surtur, Zeus, etc. amp by growing bigger. At the size of normal characters Odin would be first to go down. And that's a fact.
Originally posted by quanchi112
That was just a general statement but who cares as we see War clearly stop him. That's a direct comparison. War Hulk has that tech as his standard equipment so he's >>>>Juggs. WW Hulk easily beat him twice. Imagine if he wanted his ass as opposed to being there for Xavier.
His "standard equipment" allowed him to use more than just strength tho....
Originally posted by carver9
When did WWH admit he couldn't beat Juggernaut.?
I never said he did. I said he admitted he couldn't "stop" Juggernaut.
Originally posted by juggermanSo you agree War Hulk can easily overcome his enchantment. Good.
His "standard equipment" allowed him to use more than just strength tho....I never said he did. I said he admitted he couldn't "stop" Juggernaut.
Hulk wasn't mad enough at the time. He was also on a schedule and dealt with him as soon as possible.
Originally posted by quanchi112
So you agree War Hulk can easily overcome his enchantment. Good.Hulk wasn't mad enough at the time. He was also on a schedule and dealt with him as soon as possible.
Didn't seem like it was easy but yes he can and did. Still speaks volumes that a stronger Hulk using purely strength could not. Means something else was at play...
So he wasn't "madder than he's ever been and therefore stronger than he's ever been" or whatever the quote was? He was stronger than War Hulk. Fact
Originally posted by juggermanThat was still his powerset. His power was well above Juggernaut's in that showing.
Didn't seem like it was easy but yes he can and did. Still speaks volumes that a stronger Hulk using purely strength could not. Means something else was at play...So he wasn't "madder than he's ever been and therefore stronger than he's ever been" or whatever the quote was? He was stronger than War Hulk. Fact
WW Hulk held back the entire time. The moment he almost let it out he went WB. He made it a point to kill no one. Hulk at his best is on another level than Juggernaut.
Originally posted by quanchi112
That was still his powerset. His power was well above Juggernaut's in that showing.WW Hulk held back the entire time. The moment he almost let it out he went WB. He made it a point to kill no one. Hulk at his best is on another level than Juggernaut.
I understand that and i'm not saying otherwise. I'm saying that there was more than just his strength that stopped Juggs
He did hold back but he was still stronger than War holding back.
Originally posted by juggermanI don't know because he clearly held his anger in check at the time of the Juggs redirection. WW Hulk wouldn't kill him but War until he broke free of it would h ave killed the Juggs. If WW Hulk went all out Juggs would probably be scared.
I understand that and i'm not saying otherwise. I'm saying that there was more than just his strength that stopped JuggsHe did hold back but he was still stronger than War holding back.
Originally posted by quanchi112
I don't know because he clearly held his anger in check at the time of the Juggs redirection. WW Hulk wouldn't kill him but War until he broke free of it would h ave killed the Juggs. If WW Hulk went all out Juggs would probably be scared.
I do know due to it being stated over and over again. He was the strongest he'd ever been before it was realized he was holding back. And i doubt War Hulk would have actually been able to kill Juggs. Juggs was stripped down to his bones and still was able to walk around and talk.
Originally posted by juggermanIn one showing. That doesn't mean all writers have the same idea with regards to Juggernaut. That's also winning too. But like I said WW Hulk wasn't ruthless and he held back. You can't just look at certain statements while ignoring he held back the entire time till the end.
I do know due to it being stated over and over again. He was the strongest he'd ever been before it was realized he was holding back. And i doubt War Hulk would have actually been able to kill Juggs. Juggs was stripped down to his bones and still was able to walk around and talk.
Originally posted by quanchi112
In one showing. That doesn't mean all writers have the same idea with regards to Juggernaut. That's also winning too. But like I said WW Hulk wasn't ruthless and he held back. You can't just look at certain statements while ignoring he held back the entire time till the end.
I'm ignoring nothing. I realise he held back the bulk of his power. But i also realise that even with him holding back he was the strongest Hulk there ever was
Originally posted by quanchi112They never fought Thanos together and if they did that doesn't mean they can't win. Remember can't win means can't win ever. If someone can win 3 times out of 10 then they can win.
Just the other day you argued Stardust and Surfer can beat Thanos despite the opposite being shown. You ditch logic depending on the characters involved. 😂
Surfer if fighting smart can beat Thanos. He has the tools to do so.
Adding Stardust and they stomp Thanos for a majority.