Darkseid and Bor vs Depowered Tyrant...

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
And? Thanos was looking right at the Maker as well when she blew him away with a single eyebream from a lone eye...

He had his guard down when she knocked him out. She even admits to this in the rematch when he announced his arrival and she screamed that "This time you bring pain."

Then they fought and the scans speak for themselves. You are entitled to your opinion but on panel evidence contradicts it. If you don't believe me, just scroll up and a page back. It's all there......ON PANEL.

He had NO prep prior to the encounter because he didn't know Maker was Kosmos was Beyonder until he was INSIDE the Kylnn and ONLY after Gladiator told him.

He went seeking her for answers because he encountered her in her Beyonder form when he was a child. It's stated on panel too.

She found him first and initiated hostilities when his guard was down. When he was ready, he literally destroyed her.

Originally posted by carver9
They did well when they created Tyrant, such a monster. I was about to say Marvel should bring Tyrant back but these days, I think they would ruin the character.

Better he stay dead than ruin him like they have with all their other properties.

Originally posted by zopzop
LoM, my friend, I just provided EVERY scan relevant to that encounter.

He had his guard down when she knocked him out. She even admits to this in the rematch when he announced his arrival and she screamed that "This time you bring pain."

Then they fought and the scans speak for themselves. You are entitled to your opinion but on panel evidence contradicts it. If you don't believe me, just scroll up and a page back. It's all there......ON PANEL.

He had NO prep prior to the encounter because he didn't know Maker was Kosmos was Beyonder until he was INSIDE the Kylnn and ONLY after Gladiator told him.

He went seeking her for answers because he encountered her in her Beyonder form when he was a child. It's stated on panel too.

She found him first and initiated hostilities when his guard was down. When he was ready, he literally destroyed her.

So you'd have me believe that Thanos (who is practically always portrayed as a hyper intelligent, careful, individual who always plans ahead) didnt even consider the possibility that this very powerful, crazy, woman just might attack him?

Sorry...I cant believe that.

And in the rematch, none of her attacks were anywhere near the magnitude of the attack that one-shotted him; it stands to reason that she was sabotaging her power output via her weak frame of mind (and she had already sabotaged her durability; Thanos even admits that she made herself vulnerable)...

Think about it...even in the words of staunch Thanos fanboys...Thanos is at best a High Trans to Low Skyfather. A freaking Cube Being (which is beyond Skyfather and Elder God level) was being beaten by someone that was far weaker than it was...that alone speaks volumes about how far gone she was.

Thanos beat her...

But lets not pretend that there isnt context (her weak, unstable, emotional state) that allowed him to win that fight...

Originally posted by Stoic
You do realize that they fought a quasi on panel off panel battle that was spoken of by Galactus himself right? Now what we saw on panel was portions of Galactus' armor being destroyed which also appeared to cause him serious physical damage.

This much is certain, Galactus said that a battle between the two of them would cause vast amounts of destruction. Which lead me to believe that Galactus would have his hands full with him. Before their final confrontation, Galactus was fully fed, and he was still losing that battle.

You also pointed out that Tyrant was staggered by Terrax's blow. I'd like to remind you, Terrax easily destroyed a world with a similar assault. This is something that Darkseid and Bor would feel as well, but I'm thinking that it would do more harm to them, than it did to Tyrant who pretty much tanked it.

Neither Bor, or the Darkseid that has been shown to battle Superman on occasion would defeat Tyrant. Maybe if you threw in Despero (at his best), and The Sphinx they might take Tyrant down. Maybe.

Clearly you're off on your rocker when it comes to Tyrant's strength here, just saying 😛

You think it would take Bor, Darkseid, Sphinx and Despero to defeat depowered Tyrant. Feel free to create a thread and test the waters. I'm sure you would find that a lot of people cosign to the idea that full-powered Sphinx would be more than a match for depowered Tyrant.

Also, read up on Galactus. If you think him having a planet is him being "fully fed" then you're in for a real surprise.

Do I realize that they fought off panel? Of course I ****ing realize that. Everyone here's read the "fight" a million times over. Now try to read the post that you actually responded to. I'm pointing out how ridiculous the idea that Galactus, who created Tyrant and gave him most of his power, would forget vital information like that and attack him with that type of energy. Even more ridiculous is the notion that Galactus, who beat full-powered Tyrant, would make a slip up like that against a vastly weaker version and then lose said fight. That kind of nonsense goes in the "Whoops, I dropped the cosmic-cube" category 🙂

Physical damage to Galactus? Are you serious?

Your idea of Terrax' attack is even more staggering. He has one good feat 15 years after his fight with Tyrant and suddenly all of his attacks are planet-busting attacks 😆

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
So you'd have me believe that Thanos (who is practically always portrayed as a hyper intelligent, careful, individual who always plans ahead) didnt even consider the possibility that this very powerful, crazy, woman just might attack him?

Sorry...I cant believe that.

It's also stated that he went looking for answers not a fight by both Gladiator AND Thanos and that Thanos' mind was in a state of flux and altered awareness.

That's the mindset he was carrying around when the Maker sucker attacked him.

And in the rematch, none of her attacks were anywhere near the magnitude of the attack that one-shotted him; it stands to reason that she was sabotaging her power output via her weak frame of mind (and she had already sabotaged her durability; Thanos even admits that she made herself vulnerable)...

Think about it...even in the words of staunch Thanos fanboys...Thanos is at best a High Trans to Low Skyfather. A freaking Cube Being (which is beyond Skyfather and Elder God level) was being beaten by someone that was far weaker than it was...that alone speaks volumes about how far gone she was.

Thanos beat her...

But lets not pretend that there isnt context (her weak, unstable, emotional state) that allowed him to win that fight...

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
And? Thanos was looking right at the Maker as well when she blew him away with a single eyebream from a lone eye...

Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
Oh wow, and then Thanos came and made a mockery out of him and took his orb. They didn't fight so what's you're point? At the height of Tyrant's power, Galactus wrecked him and took his powers from him already. So no, this doesn't prove he's on Galactus' level or even close.

@zopzop

So you ignore the context of Thanos vs The Maker then?

Or are you actually suggesting that there wasnt any context and that Thanos overcame the full power of a Cube Being!?

I mean, do you recall Thanos saying that she made herself vulnerable? Her being vulnerable had nothing whatsoever to do with Thanos...it had everything to do with her...hence, she sabotaged herself.

As petains the power output of The Maker/Beyonder, you know fully well what this beings power is capable of...are you suggesting that Thanos produced universe warping/Galactus defeating power in that fight?

You know he didnt...during that fight he was just a High Trans/Low Skyfather...and the Maker sabotaged herself to that point to where she was less than that during that fight...

Just admit the context and that she wasnt at her best (or close to it) so we can move on...shall we?

Originally posted by quanchi112
An insane cube being that made itself vulnerable and had sabotaged its power output was easily dominated by Lord Thanos.

There...fixed it for you since I am sure you meant to add context to your statement...

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Originally posted by curryman
Clearly you're off on your rocker when it comes to Tyrant's strength here, just saying 😛

You think it would take Bor, Darkseid, Sphinx and Despero to defeat depowered Tyrant. Feel free to create a thread and test the waters. I'm sure you would find that a lot of people cosign to the idea that full-powered Sphinx would be more than a match for depowered Tyrant.

Also, read up on Galactus. If you think him having a planet is him being "fully fed" then you're in for a real surprise.

Do I realize that they fought off panel? Of course I ****ing realize that. Everyone here's read the "fight" a million times over. Now try to read the post that you actually responded to. I'm pointing out how ridiculous the idea that Galactus, who created Tyrant and gave him most of his power, would forget vital information like that and attack him with that type of energy. Even more ridiculous is the notion that Galactus, who beat full-powered Tyrant, would make a slip up like that against a vastly weaker version and then lose said fight. That kind of nonsense goes in the "Whoops, I dropped the cosmic-cube" category 🙂

Physical damage to Galactus? Are you serious?

Your idea of Terrax' attack is even more staggering. He has one good feat 15 years after his fight with Tyrant and suddenly all of his attacks are planet-busting attacks 😆

The Sphiinx would never beat Tyrant. Don't kid yourself. The rest is your opinion, it seemed to have very little to do with what happened on panel, and more of a guesstimate on your part.

Granted the story seemed quite strange that Tyrant was a larger threat to Galactus at what appeared to be smaller in stature. Not my problem though. In their very first on panel appearance, Tyrant made Galactus back down. This says much, as Odin himself was unable to make Galactus back down. I guess it's just something else to thing about. Neither of these guys are on his level, so you may have to come to grips with that. Tyrant is closer in power to a minor Abstract like Galactus, than he is to small guys like Darkseid, and Bor.

I'm done with this, as I have on panel evidence that backs up my entire claim. You have opinion.

Originally posted by zopzop
Mockery of him? I guess we saw a different fight. Because Thanos was all tore up (more so than his fight with Odin) and he ran with his tail between his legs.

Also it was Tyrant that had the last laugh :

As shown on panel.

Nice try though.

Lol, Thanos took his orb despite Tyrant's claim of killing him. Then went about enjoying the fruits of his labor and that last scene has him claiming he believes Tyrant was humbled by him. Tyrant ran off to his chamber to stroke his pussy ego after failing to take back his orb.

Tyrant: Gimme back my orb or I'll kill you.
Thanos: Kill me? Perhaps. Bye lol.
Tyrant: ****!!
*walks off to his chamber*
Tyrant: Well at least I have this bigger orb than he does. :/

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
There...fixed it for you since I am sure you meant to add context to your statement...

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Originally posted by quanchi112
Being insane actually makes it more impressive. I agree.

Insanity would be impressive if it were causing her to amp up and unleash more power, but it had the opposite effect here; she sabotaged herself to the point to were she was actually less than a High Trans...

Thanos caught her at just to right moment..didnt he?

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Insanity would be impressive if it were causing her to amp up and unleash more power, but it had the opposite effect here; she sabotaged herself to the point to were she was actually less than a High Trans...

Thanos caught her at just to right moment..didnt he?

Tyrant wins. On another level.

Team wins

Originally posted by Stoic

... Maybe if you threw in Despero (at his best), and The Sphinx they might take Tyrant down. Maybe.

Sorry for the necro bump Stoic, but I was compelled because this is madness right here lol. They would gang rape the "depowered" Tyrant.

Originally posted by quanchi112
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Tyrant wins. thor with some of the odinpower killed Bor while Tyrant was beating Galactus. Not even close.

LOL Tyrant was beating Galactus only because he was draining him through a plot device. In a straight fight Tyrant would have got owned easily. Context is your friend.

We have Jack affecting Tyrant, Gladiator matching power with Tyrant, Morg taking it to him, and Thanos affecting him with a punch.

So yes very close.

Originally posted by h1a8
LOL Tyrant was beating Galactus only because he was draining him through a plot device. In a straight fight Tyrant would have got owned easily. Context is your friend.

We have Jack affecting Tyrant, Gladiator matching power with Tyrant, Morg taking it to him, and Thanos affecting him with a punch.

So yes very close.

what plot device?

tyrant beat jack and morg more than once including others, simultaneously, gladiator as well, he even one-shotted gladiator.

Originally posted by operator616
what plot device?

tyrant beat jack and morg more than once including others, simultaneously, gladiator as well, he even one-shotted gladiator.

Originally posted by operator616
what plot device?

tyrant beat jack and morg more than once including others, simultaneously, gladiator as well, he even one-shotted gladiator.

Who Tyrant beat is irrelevant. I'm using Quan's logic against him. Why reply to me when my post is directed towards him to show him something.

I never meant what I said but rather im showing Quanchi that his form of debate is faulty. He constantly lowballs (he looks and memorizes low things for D.C. characters while not even discussing low things for the marvel character he is arguing for).

Lastly, Tyrant didn't one shot Gladiator. Look again. You will see Tyrant cheapshots Gladiator TWICE before Gladiator went down. Second, heralds have one-two shotted other heralds before. So it isn't a massive power difference between a herald leveler and a being who can one-two shot ko a herald leveler.

People argue that Tyrant was vastly more powerful than a high herald. He wasn't. Being vastly more powerful means you can one shot kill a high herald being.

There is no evidence to support Tyrant having that type of power output without draining Galactus.

Originally posted by zopzop
Don't mind h1a8. He's.......special.