Darkseid and Bor vs Depowered Tyrant...

Started by leonidas8 pages
Originally posted by Stoic
This says much, as Odin himself was unable to make Galactus back down. I guess it's just something else to thing about.

hey bro,

don't really wanna butt in but this comparison has been raised before and i'd meant to comment on it before this. anyway, i agree that tyrant forced g to back down--an impressive feat. there is a little difference though--in the tyrant case g wanted a herald back. in the odin case, he wanted something that would end his hunger FOREVER. g wasn't backing down from that at all. though, ultimately, we saw that he was put into a position where he had to. continue. 🙂

Originally posted by dmills
Sorry for the necro bump Stoic, but I was compelled because this is madness right here lol. They would gang rape the "depowered" Tyrant.

😂

that would be an interesting combo....

Originally posted by leonidas
hey bro,

don't really wanna butt in but this comparison has been raised before and i'd meant to comment on it before this. anyway, i agree that tyrant forced g to back down--an impressive feat. there is a little difference though--in the tyrant case g wanted a herald back. in the odin case, he wanted something that would end his hunger FOREVER. g wasn't backing down from that at all. though, ultimately, we saw that he was put into a position where he had to. continue. 🙂

Galactus only wanted the seed because it would birth something that would seek to replace him. And since it got lost forever in the World Tree, there was no reason to continue.

Galactus wanted a Morg he could visibly see. Galactus wanted a seed so he could destroy it that got lost forever.

Originally posted by h1a8
Who Tyrant beat is irrelevant. I'm using Quan's logic against him. Why reply to me when my post is directed towards him to show him something.

I never meant what I said but rather im showing Quanchi that his form of debate is faulty. He constantly lowballs (he looks and memorizes low things for D.C. characters while not even discussing low things for the marvel character he is arguing for).

Lastly, Tyrant didn't one shot Gladiator. Look again. You will see Tyrant cheapshots Gladiator TWICE before Gladiator went down. Second, heralds have one-two shotted other heralds before. So it isn't a massive power difference between a herald leveler and a being who can one-two shot ko a herald leveler.

People argue that Tyrant was vastly more powerful than a high herald. He wasn't. Being vastly more powerful means you can one shot kill a high herald being.

There is no evidence to support Tyrant having that type of power output without draining Galactus.

so you didn't mean what you said and you're still arguing? weird.

anyways, im referring to silver surfer v3 #79, it's pretty clear that gladiator gets one shotted:

http://i.imgur.com/koSpyKA.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/qVi1s7m.jpg

perhaps what you're referring to is #82 (i think)

considering he defeated half a dozen herald level beings id put him vastly above a high herald, that's also supported by the fact that galactus ate a planet just before confronting tyrant, proving that tyrant was in fact a threat to galactus.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Galactus only wanted the seed because it would birth something that would seek to replace him. And since it got lost forever in the World Tree, there was no reason to continue.

Galactus wanted a Morg he could visibly see. Galactus wanted a seed so he could destroy it that got lost forever.

yeah, i recall that now. at first i only remembered ss's explanation to thor. he still could have gone after the seed though. i see his motivation for wanting the seed>>>than wanting back a herald. i doubt you agree, but, that's how things work sometimes.

Originally posted by operator616
so you didn't mean what you said and you're still arguing? weird.

anyways, im referring to silver surfer v3 #79, it's pretty clear that gladiator gets one shotted:

http://i.imgur.com/koSpyKA.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/qVi1s7m.jpg

perhaps what you're referring to is #82 (i think)

considering he defeated half a dozen herald level beings id put him vastly above a high herald, that's also supported by the fact that galactus ate a planet just before confronting tyrant, proving that tyrant was in fact a threat to galactus.

That was a cheapshot.
Yes I was referring to the scene where Tyrant and Gladiator were actually fighting.

No it doesn't. Defeating a half of dozen heralds don't make you more than 3x more powerful than each one.

If a being was 3x greater than others in almost everyway then he too would defeat countless others.

There is a vast different between one shot koing someone (non cheapshot) vs. one shot killing someone.

Lastly, I can tell you didn't read the fights correctly. Tyrant only was able to fight Galactus because he was leeching off him. That's like taking away your superior's strength (making him weaker) while at the same time making you stronger. Tyrant in no way is in the league of Galactus without having to leech him.

Originally posted by leonidas
yeah, i recall that now. at first i only remembered ss's explanation to thor. he still could have gone after the seed though. i see his motivation for wanting the seed>>>than wanting back a herald. i doubt you agree, but, that's how things work sometimes.
He would have had to scrap the Destroyer (easily), and then he would have had to look somewhere in the infinite World Tree for a seed that he believes would be the safest place for it.

Originally posted by h1a8

No it doesn't. Defeating a half of dozen heralds don't make you more than 3x more powerful than each one.

If a being was 3x greater than others in almost everyway then he too would defeat countless others.

There is a vast different between one shot koing someone (non cheapshot) vs. one shot killing someone.

Lastly, I can tell you didn't read the fights correctly. Tyrant only was able to fight Galactus because he was leeching off him. That's like taking away your superior's strength (making him weaker) while at the same time making you stronger. Tyrant in no way is in the league of Galactus without having to leech him.

i never specified that it makes tyrant 3 times more powerful than a herald, not sure from where you're getting these numbers. It does however, indicate that he's vastly more above herald level.

regardless, his battle with galactus speaks for itself.

i have read the battle correctly, than you very much, but you seem to think that tyrant is nowhere near galactus when on panel evidence suggests otherwise:

http://i.imgur.com/K4lnJMW.jpg

now why would galactus need to consume a planet if tyrant, as you make him out to be, is slightly above herald?

Originally posted by h1a8
People argue that Tyrant was vastly more powerful than a high herald. He wasn't.

Originally posted by Sundipped

It's like he can't even be bothered to read the at least the Respect Thread, since we know he didn't read the comics :

Galactus : Find me a world for I will need all my strength vs such a foe.


After feasting, Galactus says he needs to face Tyrant on Galactus' home turf, not Tyrants.

Originally posted by zopzop
Yeah, BRB threw his hammer at him and what happened? It bounced right off him and DP Tyrant didn't even feel it.

How many people have taken hits like that from an Uru hammer and just laughed it off?

Kevin Conner (Starbrand) 🙂

Originally posted by zopzop
It's like he can't even be bothered to read the at least the Respect Thread, since we know he didn't read the comics :

Galactus : Find me a world for I will need all my strength vs such a foe.


After feasting, Galactus says he needs to face Tyrant on Galactus' home turf, not Tyrants.

Tyrant having to feed off Galactus in order to match him doesn't make him vastly more powerful than a high herald. This is a plot device. Sure he is more powerful than a high herald but not vastly more. Unless I don't know what the word 'vastly' means.

Tyrant outside of feeding off Galactus is a piece of crap to Galactus. He can stomp the living hell out of Tyrant very easily if it wasn't for that.

Originally posted by Stoic
Kevin Conner (Starbrand) 🙂

Nope. Thor sent that scrub flying back. Tyrant didn't budge.
Originally posted by h1a8
Tyrant having to feed off Galactus in order to match him doesn't make him vastly more powerful than a high herald. This is a plot device. Sure he is more powerful than a high herald but not vastly more. Unless I don't know what the word 'vastly' means.

Tyrant outside of feeding off Galactus is a piece of crap to Galactus. He can stomp the living hell out of Tyrant very easily if it wasn't for that.


Ok, back this claim up with on panel evidence. I'll wait.

Originally posted by leonidas
😂

that would be an interesting combo....

LOL. It's true man. He was saying that a team consisting of Bor, Darkseid, Despero at his most powerful and the Sphinx might be able to beat depowered Tyrant. But even that's not guaranteed.

Originally posted by dmills
LOL. It's true man. He was saying that a team consisting of Bor, Darkseid, Despero at his most powerful and the Sphinx might be able to beat depowered Tyrant. But even that's not guaranteed.

you hear some strange things in the kmc from time to time.....

i found further evidence that depowered tyrant is close to galactus:

http://i.imgur.com/NC1p1Y7.jpg

galactus says that a battle between them would bring destruction never seen before, and thus it would be in no one's favor to fight one another.

refutation at this point is simply foolish and pointless.

An obvious hyperbole seeing as pretty much all of creation had been nearly destroyed several times before that 🙂

Originally posted by curryman
An obvious hyperbole seeing as pretty much all of creation had been nearly destroyed several times before that 🙂

What isn't hyperbole is Galactus backing down from his threat to attack Tyrant if Tyrant didn't hand over his herald.

This despite the fact that Galactus fed on a planet (at the end of the Herald Ordeal aka SS #76) and he took Tyrant by surprise.

Originally posted by zopzop
What isn't hyperbole is Galactus backing down from his threat to attack Tyrant if Tyrant didn't hand over his herald.

This despite the fact that Galactus fed on a planet (at the end of the Herald Ordeal aka SS #76) and he took Tyrant by surprise.


Yes.

This is well known to all.

Thank you for stating it yet again.

Originally posted by curryman
An obvious hyperbole seeing as pretty much all of creation had been nearly destroyed several times before that 🙂

you've kinda missed the point...........the statement wasn't meant to show that this is going to be the most destructive battle on the face of creation, after all, in cosmic power #6 the exact same thing was stated bin galactus' first battle with tyrant:

http://i.imgur.com/GNq4n29.jpg

point was, to show that the battle between galactus and tyrant would do great damage to the universe because of their immense power.