Edo Itachi Vs. Wonder Woman

Originally posted by AuraAngel
I'm not implying that he can't use clones just that while Edo he doesn't seem to care to since his immortality allows him to do the analyzing without having to make clones. O:

It's certainly possible for him to make clones but I'm just looking at the actions of the character.

We've seen him in what, 6 fights?

He used clones against Kakashi and co. in Part 1.
Didn't use clones against Jiraiya (as far as I can recall).
Used them against Kakashi and co. again in Part 2.
Used them against Sasuke.
Used them against Bee & Naruto (but he was on ET auto-pilot when he did).
Used them against Kabuto (Initiating Izanami)

So that's 4 fights with, 1 without, and 1 that is on the fence, but probably counts. 😛

Certainly he never used them to analyze Kabuto's techniques, and he no doubt let his guard down, but I'm guessing that also may have been because he had an EMS user with equally observant eyes right beside him.

Also, you could do better at concealing your hatred for him. 😛

Originally posted by marwash22
why wouldn't genjutsu work?

He needs eye contact to land all of his genjutsu barring Izanami.

General Knowledge likely means Wonder Woman will know to avoid eye contact with Itachi at the start of the fight. After that, he won't be able to track her.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
We've seen him in what, 6 fights?

He used clones against Kakashi and co. in Part 1.
Didn't use clones against Jiraiya (as far as I can recall).
Used them against Kakashi and co. again in Part 2.
Used them against Sasuke.
Used them against Bee & Naruto (but he was on ET auto-pilot when he did).
Used them against Kabuto (Initiating Izanami)

So that's 4 fights with, 1 without, and 1 that is on the fence, but probably counts. 😛

Certainly he never used them to analyze Kabuto's techniques, and he no doubt let his guard down, but I'm guessing that also may have been because he had an EMS user with equally observant eyes right beside him.

Also, you could do better at concealing your hatred for him. 😛

He needs eye contact to land all of his genjutsu barring Izanami.

General Knowledge likely means Wonder Woman will know to avoid eye contact with Itachi at the start of the fight. After that, he won't be able to track her.

He did cast a genjutsu on Naruto without Naruto looking in his eyes.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
He needs eye contact to land all of his genjutsu barring Izanami.

General Knowledge likely means Wonder Woman will know to avoid eye contact with Itachi at the start of the fight. After that, he won't be able to track her.

Originally posted by marwash22
that's why i was asking what general knowledge entails. If shes knows not to look him in the eye, he has no chance.

That is for TSUKIYOMI, some genjutsu users can cast it as a trap (battlefield or random location), when the victim walks in your tagged.

Does WW know what a Genjutsu is, she is not a ninja. The closest to a ninja she has encounter is BATMAN (tell me if there are others).

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
We've seen him in what, 6 fights?

He used clones against Kakashi and co. in Part 1.
Didn't use clones against Jiraiya (as far as I can recall).
Used them against Kakashi and co. again in Part 2.
Used them against Sasuke.
Used them against Bee & Naruto (but he was on ET auto-pilot when he did).
Used them against Kabuto (Initiating Izanami)

So that's 4 fights with, 1 without, and 1 that is on the fence, but probably counts. 😛

Certainly he never used them to analyze Kabuto's techniques, and he no doubt let his guard down, but I'm guessing that also may have been because he had an EMS user with equally observant eyes right beside him.

Also, you could do better at concealing your hatred for him. 😛

Almost each of those cases are genjutsu, not actual clones. In the case of Kakashi and co. it was a body double created by Pain, not Itachi directly. Apparently the Kabuto one couldn't have been because he couldn't cast genjutsu but pardon me for forgetting the incredibly stupid crow clone technique.

I do not feel like it. uhuh

Also I would make the case that Sasuke is a better strategist. awesome

Originally posted by AuraAngel
Almost each of those cases are genjutsu, not actual clones. In the case of Kakashi and co. it was a body double created by Pain, not Itachi directly. Apparently the Kabuto one couldn't have been because he couldn't cast genjutsu but pardon me for forgetting the incredibly stupid crow clone technique.

I do not feel like it. uhuh

Also I would make the case that Sasuke is a better strategist. awesome

EMOBOY?? HHMMM.

That retard only thinks of himself.

Quite but that really doesn't make a bad strategist.

Just compare their Deidara battles. Who overpowers him and who beats him through legitimate strategy and foresight? 313

Originally posted by remigio_coldez
That is for TSUKIYOMI, some genjutsu users can cast it as a trap (battlefield or random location), when the victim walks in your tagged.

general knowledge doesn't include details about techs, so I'm gonna say that it's reasonable that he catches her in genjutsu before she blows him up with a punch... if the starting distance is decent enough.

Originally posted by AuraAngel
Quite but that really doesn't make a bad strategist.

Just compare their Deidara battles. Who overpowers him and who beats him through legitimate strategy and foresight? 313

I will give you that specially with ORO's Power Set involved.

Originally posted by marwash22
There's no prep in this scenario and he wouldn't have time to set traps once the fight starts, so that's not even worth discussing... eye contact would be the only possible way to trap her in a genjutsu.

general knowledge doesn't include details about techs, so I'm gonna say that it's reasonable that he catches her in genjutsu before she blows him up with a punch... if the starting distance is decent enough.

Agreed with you and I'm not discounting DIANA's strength and battle EXP., what I'm saying is, if the opportunity presents itself, Itachi will surely grab it.

As for the pre-cast genjutsu, I'm just stating a fact and Kurenai can whip one in a flash and Itachi is better than her.

Originally posted by remigio_coldez
If you take away her speed would it be WW anymore?

Diana can still counter everything he throws at her, the lasso and the bracelets are still imprevious to all of Itachi's attacks. The lasso is perfect to deal with the likes of Itachi, and Diana has a long history of pulling the lasso on opponents even faster than she is. He cannot really hurt her in anyways and Genjutsu is still useless... So yeah, at some point she'll catch him and take its soul away with the lasso.

Originally posted by Bentley
Diana can still counter everything he throws at her, the lasso and the bracelets are still imprevious to all of Itachi's attacks. The lasso is perfect to deal with the likes of Itachi, and Diana has a long history of pulling the lasso on opponents even faster than she is. He cannot really hurt her in anyways and Genjutsu is still useless... So yeah, at some point she'll catch him and take its soul away with the lasso.

BRACELET - Can it protect her back?

LASSO - Who, a clone or a kawarime (Hope my spelling is right)?

When she is caught in a GENJUTSU, ITACHI will follow with a TSUKIYOMI, activate SUSANOO and finish her with a Totsuka-no-Tsurugi.

If she is not careful, she can be a victim of her own strength via Yata no Kagami

BRACELET - Can it protect her back?

With her speed, she's deflected people shooting at her from front and back at the same time, and even blocked lightning coming from multiple directions.

When she is caught in a GENJUTSU,

Oh, yea... at one point she lost her eyes, so the goddess Athena gave her new eyes, that could see through illusions and all that.

Also she can fight at full power completely blind.

I would not bet on genjutsu being too effective on her.

Originally posted by Q99
With her speed, she's deflected people shooting at her from front and back at the same time, and even blocked lightning coming from multiple directions.

Oh, yea... at one point she lost her eyes, so the goddess Athena gave her new eyes, that could see through illusions and all that.

Also she can fight at full power completely blind.

I would not bet on genjutsu being too effective on her.

So how can she hit him if she gauge her eyeballs again, your talking about an assassin who can make his presence disappear or is DIANA a sensor type also?

Diana once beat up the Justice League while blindfolded relying totally on sound and yes, at one point Batman tried to sneak attack her (he wasn't supposed to be in the fight) and she detected him and took him down.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Diana once beat up the Justice League while blindfolded relying totally on sound and yes, at one point Batman tried to sneak attack her (he wasn't supposed to be in the fight) and she detected him and took him down.

So tell me, who is better at sneaking BATS or Weasel?

Would Wonder woman even know enough about Itachi to know to avoid or even how to avoid his genjutsu? Its not like you can see the genjutsu coming your way to dodge it, all you have to do is look in his eyes, or have him point a finger at you and he got you, and some of his most powerful genjutsu aren't as simple as that.

Originally posted by KAIKAGE
Would Wonder woman even know enough about Itachi to know to avoid or even how to avoid his genjutsu? Its not like you can see the genjutsu coming your way to dodge it, all you have to do is look in his eyes, or have him point a finger at you and he got you, and some of his most powerful genjutsu aren't as simple as that.

Agreed 🙂

Originally posted by remigio_coldez
Agreed 🙂

Originally posted by remigio_coldez
BRACELET - Can it protect her back?

LASSO - Who, a clone or a kawarime (Hope my spelling is right)?

When she is caught in a GENJUTSU, ITACHI will follow with a TSUKIYOMI, activate SUSANOO and finish her with a Totsuka-no-Tsurugi.

If she is not careful, she can be a victim of her own strength via Yata no Kagami

The lasso and her God of truth powers make it so she won't be tricked by clones -she can see through any illusions-, she won't be affected by Genjutsu -she can see through any illusions-. And frankly, the rest of Itachi's abilities barring maybe the mirror are pretty useless considering she only needs to bind him with the lasso.

What are the mirror's best feats anyways? I don't exactly see how the mirror will keep Itachi from being lassoed.