Originally posted by carver9Surely it does in the context of cutting lose at 'bystanders' when you are fighting to the death and think they are demons. Surely it does when you are cutting lose and fighting to the death full stop. On panel feats for Bor and JMS OdinforceThor please. Otherwise all inferred power is hyperbolic.
Stop using Collateral damage as a means of power level. Using your type of argument, WBH>>>>>>Galactus physically. It doesn't work like that bro.
Originally posted by Male Model
Surely it does in the context of cutting lose at 'bystanders' when you are fighting to the death and think they are demons. Surely it does when you are cutting lose and fighting to the death full stop. On panel feats for Bor and JMS OdinforceThor please. Otherwise all inferred power is hyperbolic.
Black Adam and Superman cut lose and they didn't even level a city block. Captain Marvel while amped fought an abstract and they didn't even create a crater in the ground. An amped Thanos and Tyrant fought and the planet they were on was still intact. Superboy Prime and Ion fought and the most they did was ruin a freaking cemetery. Galactus and Tenebrous and Aegis cut lose and they didn't even dent the ground they were fighting on. Your logic is terrible.
Originally posted by Male Model
and yet the blows they traded dented a few lamp posts and funniest of all when Bor cut lose, remember he thought the bystanders were demons or some such they got blown over, not incinerated, not dematerialized... Blown over.
So? Do you want it so that every time big boys like Bor and Thor hit each other, entire cities are destroyed? That's ridiculous. Bor's power was shown and implied just fine. Just because the city and its people didn't look like Hiroshima doesn't mean his feats are any less good.
Originally posted by Damborgson
So? Do you want it so that every time big boys like Bor and Thor hit each other, entire cities are destroyed? That's ridiculous. Bor's power was shown and implied just fine. Just because the city and its people didn't look like Hiroshima doesn't mean his feats are any less good.
Well... when Black Adam hits a mortal they are not blown down the road. Just a thought.
Originally posted by Rao Kal El
This collateral damage issue can be easily handled by showing other instances of Thor fighting other characters that are not Bor under the same writer. Imo anyway
Explain that in more detail my friend, I'm not sure I see that completely as this fight was supposed to be between "Skyfathers". Loki owned Bor remember, he was easily affected by Loki's magic, would Odin or Thor have been?
Originally posted by Male Model
No one is trolling, I am merely asking for on panel proof to support your statements, re: Bor and his 'power output', he has no feats that indicate it is as high as some are stating. He was owned by Loki and damaged a few city blocks.
I've seen Cyclops do more collateral damage than what was shown in the Odin vs Thanos fight. are you seriously trying to argue that Odin was using below Cyke level power in that fight?
Originally posted by Silent Master
I've seen Cyclops do more collateral damage than what was shown in the Odin vs Thanos fight. are you seriously trying to argue that Odin was using below Cyke level power in that fight?
Remember that was in a mystical city and mainly on the bifrost. Not much to damage, it has also been argued that Asgard is an extension of the All Father at least in some ways.
Originally posted by Male Model
Explain that in more detail my friend, I'm not sure I see that completely as this fight was supposed to be between "Skyfathers". Loki owned Bor remember, he was easily affected by Loki's magic, would Odin or Thor have been?
What I meant is this.
A) The writer decides to portray a skyfather at few blocks buster level.
, but decides to portray a herald at city buster level.
Then it means the asumption of someone being skyfather is wrong.
B) The writer decides to portray a skyfater at a few blocks buster level and decides to portray a herald at building buster level.
Then it means the assumption of someone being skyfather is correct.
IF the writer decides to estate on panel a power level then it has to be congruent with the showing.
Therefore if Bor shot at OF thor and he didnt got killed, but it estates that it would have killed his former self, then it will be wise to look for anotherr instance of Bor shoting someone on classic thor level, to see if the estament is correct. This has to be under the same writer.
But tbh i have not read those issues, so, since I do not know anything about Bor, that is why i decide just to read the debate.
I just thought it will be an easy way to get his power level based on panel.
Superman would have problems dealing with a ancient Asgardian who nearly killed Thor with one hit if wasn't for the Odin Force that saved Thor life and only suffered a broken rib. And took a death blow Mjolner to kill Bor in the process shattered Thor hammer, that's a lot about Bor. Superman will get dropped first, than I see Captain Marvel getting drop next since he does have magic resistance abilities; which Superman has none!