Thor vs S2 Goku

Originally posted by NemeBro
lol

Originally posted by I am Vegeta
Naw just dont like arguing with people who are double my age but only have half my knowledge. Also ScreamPaste is much more fun to argue with.

You don't want the rep of 'that guy'.

Thor. Let goku become a SSJG or better SSJ4 and he will at least put up a decent fight.

Originally posted by BloodRain
More impressive a line if you ever provided the appropriate evidence when asked, even directly several times.

You don't want the rep of 'that guy'.

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
Thor. Let goku become a SSJG or better SSJ4 and he will at least put up a decent fight.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
He still wouldn't. Mjolnir's energy manipulating abilities nullify Goku's greatest power, his ki. shrug

I forgot. But Thor might get first physical and not using his powers to the fulles effect. Sure he is far stronger then Goku but Gokus is faster.

@IAVegeta: You're asking me to prove the aliens are hostile before you even prove aliens exists. As Scream has said, burden of proof. You can't just say your opinion is correct, you have to prove it with minimal doubt.

For instance, Goku doing with 2 tons what he does with 40 as SS1, 20x. Thats a good start with some sort of evidence for the SS1 increase.

Another, gravity. Its weight was given in tons, its weight. Weight is dependant on the gravity so 40 tons is its weight after gravity.

Originally posted by BloodRain
@IAVegeta: You're asking me to prove the aliens are hostile before you even prove aliens exists. As Scream has said, burden of proof. You can't just say your opinion is correct, you have to prove it with minimal doubt.

For instance, Goku doing with 2 tons what he does with 40 as SS1, 20x. Thats a good start with some sort of evidence for the SS1 increase.

Another, gravity. Its weight was given in tons, its weight. Weight is dependant on the gravity so 40 tons is its weight after gravity.

You're really not getting this, are you?

Edit: Okay. Something that weighs 40 tons on Earth would weigh 400 tons under 10g.

Problem. Kai is stating its weight then and there, not what it would weigh on Earth. If it weighed 400 tons Kai would say 400 tons.

"An object's weight depends on its environment, while its mass does not"

Edit2: Where 'exactly' where they?

Think it was Grand kai's place but it was 400 tons. See it like this they have different gravity than us what is 40 tons to them would weigh 4 tons on Earth seeing how they have different gravity so their weight system is different than ours. Because the stuff they make cause they live in 10g and that's what they level it as cause they havent been in any other gravity before so that's what its labeled. However they have more gravity than us so their labeled 40 tons would actually only weigh 4 tons on our planet because of the gravity difference. look at it like this say you ask for a 5 pound scrap metal than feel how heavy it is. Than ask for it again on the moon it dosent weigh 5 pounds because on our planet thats how much it weighs but its just in different gravity and thats why its light. Same thing goes for more gravity its heavier but still labeled 5 pounds cause thats how much it weights on Earth.

More asking what the gravity is of that area. The entire otherworld isn't 10g, after all.

Missed a vital point shown in this question; Why would K.Kai say what they would weigh on Earth, and not where they were?

I mean you have the g part nailed down well, its just the application. Its true that under 1g something will weigh 1kg where in 10g it would weigh 10kg as the weight of a mass comes from gravity. As said, K.Kai and Goku are already in that g area so the weight is going to already be based on that gravity. If someone on the Moon says something weighs 10kg, it weighs that much due to the area just as Kai's mention of the weights here.

Unless of course King Kai, North (I think) Kai and Goku were strictly referencing what it would weigh on another planet, not where they were. Thats hard to believe though.

Kg measures mass, not weight. 😛 1 kg is 1 kg everywhere. 1 ton is not, though.

The entire out world isn't 10g's that's true but the kai's planets are alike in many ways and besides South Kai changed the weigths and North kai said change the weights to 40 tons and he did so. Changed the weight to 40 tons and since the Kai's planets are 10g it was actually 400 tons. But you are right the entire out world isn't 10g's though.

Thing is we know nothing about the other Kai's planets (K.Kai's could easily have been unique), the otherworld plains or which one they were on.

Yes, 40 tons relative to where they were, not relative to Earth.

But it be 400 tons on Earth is what I have been saying.

"However they have more gravity than us so their labeled 40 tons would actually only weigh 4 tons on our planet because of the gravity difference."

The Kai's and Goku confirm that in that setting the weights weigh 40 tons, meaning with that gravity.

Alright ill go by your perspective even though several times you agreed it was 400 tons. Well multiply 40 * 20 * 2 * 4 which is 6400 tons so gokus base is 6400 tons because originally kid buu beat goku at Level 3 but at the end of the saga Goku at base equal to kid buu. So gokus base is 6400 tons by your perspective.

It was only recently I considered the mass/gravity/weight thing. And while the 20x strength is.. passable, we have nothing for SS2 and 3 like we do for SS1. Tbh I'm unsure if Uub was at Buu's level yet.

But just so you know the tons you're getting are now a fraction of what they initially were, so how again are they meant to compare to the likes of Hulk and Thor?

Goku at base isn't even equal to Freeza, much less Kid Buu.

He was trouncing cell in GT without going Super Saiyan. Phucking retarded