Originally posted by Delta1938What feats are you thinking seal the deal ?
The problem with this argument is that the thread starter specifically wants to compare feats. Whether it's a fair or accurate way to compare the two is an entirely different topic.And so far, I'm thinking Superman wins this.
Originally posted by carver9
Anybody with any freakin common sense knows this version of Thor is above an Elite tier member. Fts are not needed to judge this. That's like me asking, "who is more powerful, Sun dip Superman or normal Superman". Youll be hard pressed at proving Sundipped Superman is more powerful than an average Supes since an average Superman has all of his fts. Or how about Superboy Prime or Guardian amped Prime. Who is more powerful? Based off fts, Superboy Prime is more powerful but based off common sense, Guardian amped Prime is. Your logic is flawed bro.
However not Trans. High Herald +.
Not sundipped, in this example it would be like sunamped Superman or Superman under a blue Sun. There he wouldn't be Translevel, exactly like OF Thor.
SBP already operated on higher levels, so this one is moot.
Take Mon-El with a GL Ring for example, a huge amp, like the OF Thor had, still not enough to put in in the same tier as Thanos for example.
Originally posted by Rao Kal El
Ever heard what happens to a Solar mass once is compresed into a singularity? This is similar but in WTF scale.Anyhow, we have ben told to get back on topic.
This is only one feat of superman.
And going only by feats (not implied power or hierarchy) superman should win this.
Where is it stated that the book was compressed in such a manner?
Originally posted by Silent Master
Where is it stated that the book was compressed in such a manner?
Superman Beyond #1 When they enter to the library of limbo, it states that is a Book with an infinite amount of pages all occupying the same space. in other words a SINGULARITY. A lot of mass compressed into a single space. Infinite amount of pages or every book ever written into a single page.
This is a straight up lifting strength feat. That is also why the writer states certain strength level to lift it.
Now. if you want to keep talking about this particular feat, PM me so We don't derail the thread.
Originally posted by Rao Kal El
Superman Beyond #1 When they enter to the library of limbo, it states that is a Book with an infinite amount of pages all occupying the same space. in other words a SINGULARITY. A lot of mass compressed into a single space. Infinite amount of pages or every book ever written into a single page.This is a straight up lifting strength feat. That is also why the writer states certain strength level to lift it.
Now. if you want to keep talking about this particular feat, PM me so We don't derail the thread.
Occupying the same space isn't the same as being compressed.
But like you said, we can take anything further to PM's.
Originally posted by abhilegend
You obviously missed mine. No surprise there.
Except superman is more durable and has better damage soak than thor.
Not sure why me informing a new member about Kmc s.o.p.'s got you and H1 arguing with me about this but ok, I'm just not going to argue about that anymore...
On topic, do you think a standard pre flashpoint superman could tank and continue a fight after taking a blast that one shot killed Thor? Do you think their combined durability is that far apart?
I think on panel, Superman has greater high end feats. Then again, so does regular Thor.
JMS Thor was for a great chunk of the run without the Odin Force and when it was introduced, it was very meh compared to what came before. That being said, the fight with Bor clearly meant to portray him as being above Top Tier.
I'd say JMS Thor would beat up Superman most of the time unless the Man of Steel has something to balance the noticeable power disadvantage.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I think on panel, Superman has greater high end feats. Then again, so does regular Thor.JMS Thor was for a great chunk of the run without the Odin Force and when it was introduced, it was very meh compared to what came before. That being said, the fight with Bor clearly meant to portray him as being above Top Tier.
I'd say JMS Thor would beat up Superman most of the time unless the Man of Steel has something to balance the noticeable power disadvantage.
Well, that's a far less fanboy post from you and I now think that perhaps your not a complete fanboy at all. I am going to say I think it's possible OF Thor or Bor alone would beat Superman and I agree Supes probably has better feats. Throw Captain Marvel into the mix as well, the only character in comics whose plot device status truly rivals supes and they would in my opinion defeat OF Thor or Bor. That's just who they are.
Originally posted by Male Model
Well, that's a far less fanboy post from you and I now think that perhaps your not a complete fanboy at all. I am going to say I think it's possible OF Thor or Bor alone would beat Superman and I agree Supes probably has better feats. Throw Captain Marvel into the mix as well, the only character in comics whose plot device status truly rivals supes and they would in my opinion defeat OF Thor or Bor. That's just who they are.
Lol? I don't give a shit what you think of me. If I'm such a complete fanboy, put me on ignore.
Seriously, the arrogance of this little prick.
Captain Marvel? Green Lantern, Thor, Hulk etc. are more plot device and likely to pull something out of their ass than Billy to save the day or perform a big feat I think. Still, the Big Cheese gets underestimated at times. He might not be Superman, but he's pretty damn close.
Regarding Superman and Captain Marvel against Thor or Bor. Could they win? Yes, you can't rule out the possibility with two power houses like that. But chances are they'd get spanked on average. Any two top tiers most likely would is where my money's at.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Lol? I don't give a shit what you think of me. If I'm such a complete fanboy, put me on ignore.Seriously, the arrogance of this little prick.
Captain Marvel? Green Lantern, Thor, Hulk etc. are more plot device and likely to pull something out of their ass than Billy to save the day or perform a big feat I think. Still, the Big Cheese gets underestimated at times. He might not be Superman, but he's pretty damn close.
Regarding Superman and Captain Marvel against Thor or Bor. Could they win? Yes, you can't rule out the possibility with two power houses like that. But chances are they'd get spanked on average. Any two top tiers most likely would is where my money's at.
Now your language seems a bit strong for a pg13 board sonny. I suspect it's the only place you're allowed to swear... Let your anger out! 🙂 (smiley added as an edit for shear arrogance)