Originally posted by carver9
How am I lowballing?
You're kidding, right?
Of course you are, because we've been through this before. I get that you want badly for Gladiator to win, but cherry picking feats to make J'onn look bad, not to mention posting false information, hurts your argument more than it helps it.
What, you don't think Gladiator can win unless you make J'onn look bad? Because that's what it seems like.
Originally posted by yaadaveyaa
just a question how is it lowballing stating whose stronger in each case hes physically stronger hes much faster and a better combatant that uses MMH weakness coming from his eyes hows it low balling? i have the same opinion so im curious
You can believe Gladiator is stronger if you like, that isn't why I told him to stop trolling and lowballing.
Originally posted by Rao Kal El
Nothing to reread.In a forum fight Glads should pop cannonball's head like a zit.
But in a comic book he jobs, confidence dwindles and losses.
If you read the fight you would have known Gladiator toyed with him the ENTIRE fight. When he decided to get serious and punch him to the core of the sun, Cannonball gained a new ability and absorbed that punch and redirected it back at Gladiator. The sad thing about your argument is, that was the only decent lick he got off Gladiator and that didn't even scratch him, let along take him out if the fight (and again, that was Gladiator own power redirected back at him). Now again I ask, what showing makes Gladiator q jobber?
Originally posted by -Pr-
You're kidding, right?Of course you are, because we've been through this before. I get that you want badly for Gladiator to win, but cherry picking feats to make J'onn look bad, not to mention posting false information, hurts your argument more than it helps it.
What, you don't think Gladiator can win unless you make J'onn look bad? Because that's what it seems like.
You can believe Gladiator is stronger if you like, that isn't why I told him to stop trolling and lowballing.
I never said MM was weak but what I did say is, Gladiator is leagues above him physically if we look at fts.
Originally posted by Chozone
Gladiator's life will end if he shows poor enough judgement to face the Martian
^That is a little silly.
However.............I was thinking Glads would take a slight majority until PR brought up how MM can exploit Gladiator's weakness and in this circumstance Glads weakness is a lot more easily exploited than MM's weakness. Glads weakness can be magnified very quickly when you consider how powerful MM is as a telepath. You must also consider that the physical edge Gladiator has is not that significant, especially considering MM's TP
Originally posted by Raisen
^That is a little silly.
However.............I was thinking Glads would take a slight majority until PR brought up how MM can exploit Gladiator's weakness and in this circumstance Glads weakness is a lot more easily exploited than MM's weakness. Glads weakness can be magnified very quickly when you consider how powerful MM is as a telepath. You must also consider that the physical edge Gladiator has is not that significant, especially considering MM's TP
Gladiator has endured telepathic attacks and even overcame it recently. Gladiator has had confidence issues twice his entire career and telepathic attacks and people being near his level of power had nothing to do with it either.
Originally posted by carver9
Gladiator has endured telepathic attacks and even overcame it recently. Gladiator has had confidence issues twice his entire career and telepathic attacks and people being near his level of power had nothing to do with it either.
mmm
Originally posted by carver9
TP has prove to drop Gladiator...without it, Glads 8/10.
mmm
Originally posted by carver9
Gladiator has endured telepathic attacks and even overcame it recently. Gladiator has had confidence issues twice his entire career and telepathic attacks and people being near his level of power had nothing to do with it either.
Their level of power is VERY close although I would still give the brawn and combat speed to Gladiator. MM, on top of this, is an UBER TOP-TIER TELEPATH and can go INTANGIBLE. The fire beams would not quickly subdue MM and MM always has the option to go intangible. Whilst MM can affect Gladiator with TP that, to my knowledge, Glads has not had to deal with yet. If Glads can be f'ed with telepathically, then MM can and will do it. It's also very within his character to do so.
CASE CLOSED
Originally posted by Rao Kal El
I hope you are not trying to imply that in a forum battle he will do the same.Lets do this
Forum battle
Figth starts at 20 ft in character, cis is off
How many times does cannonball wins out of ten?
You tell me.
Reread my statement. I said "Cannonball was not a threat". The only reason Canonball was able to even budge Gladiator during the end of that fight was..."he gained a new power out of no where" the ability to absorb kinetic energy and redirect it "and even then, it didn't damage Gladiator". What's so hard to understand? Dang.
Originally posted by carver9
He is affected by fire and I would love for you to name these showings that doesn't make Gladiator an elite.
his fire vulnerbility is a mental thing not physical.....he stated long ago fire does not harm him. and if u wanna go the weakness exploitation route j'onn can do the same thing nova did to the strontian on one shot his ass. i'd give you the strength edge, and id even give you the speed edge....but neither is markedly enough to be the deciding factor in this fight. in a forum fight martian manhunter just has more to draw on and gladiator doesnt have the superman-esque feats to allow him to take a majority against him.
as for the second question, what elite high herald has gladiator has outright beat or shown superiority...and no at the time Vulcan was NOT a high herald.
Originally posted by carver9
Reread my statement. I said "Cannonball was not a threat". The only reason Canonball was able to even budge Gladiator during the end of that fight was..."he gained a new power out of no where" the ability to absorb kinetic energy and redirect it "and even then, it didn't damage Gladiator". What's so hard to understand? Dang.
In other words, Gladiator was jobbing. Unless you think in reality cannonball had a shot to win.