Originally posted by Golgo13
Didn't Wolvie beat Gamorra? WHo has Gamora beaten in HTH that was actually SKILLED?
Wolverine only won due to a distraction before the distraction it was even.
Didn't Zealot lost to a guy with a mask?
Who has Zealot beaten in HTH that is actually Skilled?
This type of logic can applied for both.
Originally posted by SevenShackles
Don't know of direct lifting feats but here are some things to gauge from.Taking out united nations invasion fleet in 8 minutes (including tanks, fight mostly takes place off panel) strength and speed feat
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/145/armybattalionln4.jpg
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/295/army2strengthvz2.jpg
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/153/badmoveyn5.jpg
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/216/army3vd0.jpg
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/224/army4cl4.jpgDamaging rouge and she-hulk with physical attacks
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/216/iwqn9.jpg
Another look at the she hulk kick
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/70/alphaflight11109gb9.jpgNow for post upgrade feats..
Not much is shown of her fight with Terrax but she does essentially win and you can see her strikes hurt him.
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/178/annihilation3016es2.jpgVS Ronan
Yeah Gamora for the majority. I recall Thanos bleeding from her hits and he stated anyone else would have been dead or something probably because Thanos is immortal.
Originally posted by Daredevil1
Nice do you have scans of those two feats?
Kicks drax and makes him puke power gem
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/175/infintywars0429ki5.jpg
Accidenly punches drax with a punch meant for pip (I just like this scan lol)
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/143/warlockandtheinfinitywapr3.jpg
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/169/goodshotvt4.jpg
Fights Maxam +100 character
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/155/warlocktheinfinitywatchci4.jpg
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/155/warlocktheinfinitywatchio6.jpg
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/169/warlocktheinfinitywatchse8.jpg
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/169/warlocktheinfinitywatchyj8.jpg
When she's is hit by wolverine. Obviously distracted
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/88/possiblehealingfactor1vv0.jpg
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/241/possiblehealingfactor2aw9.jpg
Takes place after the one shots of rouge and she hulk, she gets tackled by wolverine and this is how they manage to deal with her. Wolverine + Guardian holding her down while strong guy swings at her head. Wolverine was NOT handling her himself. (iv noticed alot of people assume he did because he tackled her)
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/96/iw3hb7.jpg
VS thanos
Keep in mind that everything that I’ve shown you up until now was the “Classic” version of Gamora BEFORE her recent upgrade. [/B]
Originally posted by SevenShackles
Here are some.Kicks drax and makes him puke power gem
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/175/infintywars0429ki5.jpgAccidenly punches drax with a punch meant for pip (I just like this scan lol)
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/143/warlockandtheinfinitywapr3.jpg
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/169/goodshotvt4.jpgFights Maxam +100 character
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/155/warlocktheinfinitywatchci4.jpg
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/155/warlocktheinfinitywatchio6.jpg
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/169/warlocktheinfinitywatchse8.jpg
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/169/warlocktheinfinitywatchyj8.jpgWhen she's is hit by wolverine. Obviously distracted
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/88/possiblehealingfactor1vv0.jpg
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/241/possiblehealingfactor2aw9.jpgTakes place after the one shots of rouge and she hulk, she gets tackled by wolverine and this is how they manage to deal with her. Wolverine + Guardian holding her down while strong guy swings at her head. Wolverine was NOT handling her himself. (iv noticed alot of people assume he did because he tackled her)
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/96/iw3hb7.jpgVS thanos
Has Gamora actually beaten a class 100? Zealot took it to Maul once.
Originally posted by Daredevil1
Nice do you have scans of those two feats?
Found the other feat you wanted to see
http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb6/Enteithegreat/Gamora/Gamora-Sun.jpg
http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb6/Enteithegreat/Gamora/Gamora-Sun2.jpg
Originally posted by SevenShackles
Found the other feat you wanted to see
http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb6/Enteithegreat/Gamora/Gamora-Sun.jpg
http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb6/Enteithegreat/Gamora/Gamora-Sun2.jpg
I just need to ask, but do you think Gamora is going to stomp Zealot? I see this being a decent match up.
Originally posted by Stoic
I just need to ask, but do you think Gamora is going to stomp Zealot? I see this being a decent match up.
I think it would be a great fight that ends with gamora winning. Yeah zealot has beaten Maul. Im not saying that isn't awesome but the only think that stunts gamora and her feats are plot convenient happenings.. Like her nearly always being hit from behind out of nowhere, stopping her from continuing whatever beating she so happens to be handing out ATM. Zealot was handled differently in comic and given more chances to shine in my opinion but in a forum fight with a PIS-less Gamora using all her abilities. (even is supposed to have a precognitive tracking instinct -see link below- ) the only time she was allowed to shine was when she fought thanos and when she used pressure point attacks on characters normally unaffected by such attacks due to super durability. Something I don't think zealot could reproduce (strength) so given the strength Gamora has shown with her skill she pulls majority. Zealot is a badass and would make it one hell of a fight but loses.
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Gamora/gamoraprecog.jpg
Originally posted by Stoic
Her skill is still enough that this would not be a stomp, and she has proven that she can drop Class 100's.
Zealot is a high street by feats. The only real argument for her that I see, is if you think Gamora's healing factor isn't that great.
Originally posted by Golgo13
Has Gamora actually beaten a class 100? Zealot took it to Maul once.
Maul, at any significant size, would crush Zealot.
The Maxim and Drax stuff is old news to me, but the Sun feat is new. Impressive.
The thing is, looking is look at the Maxim fights, she never actually seemed to hurt him. Stagger him, knock him around a bit, but not doing any actual damage..
At best that could be comparable to Doc Sampson vs Hulk, at worst comparable to Iron Fist vs Rulk (In terms of Rand being able to knock Rulk across a good length of distance, but not really being able to hurt him..)
These kinds of feat say a lot about her striking power and skill, but they don't say as much about her speed and durability though, because Drax and Maxim aren't exactly known for their speed.
And her durability is kind of all over the place. Wolverine can stagger her (Sneak attack or not), Spidey can affect her, and Maxim can knock her out pretty easy. Yet, there's what she took against Ronan, and this insane Sun feat...
Not that Zealot is exactly a class 100 brick herself, looking at how she fared against, say, Midnighter..
Originally posted by cdtmShe has been significantly upgraded since her sneak attack losses, and Spudder Man can hurt anyone
The Maxim and Drax stuff is old news to me, but the Sun feat is new. Impressive.The thing is, looking is look at the Maxim fights, she never actually seemed to hurt him. Stagger him, knock him around a bit, but not doing any actual damage..
At best that could be comparable to Doc Sampson vs Hulk, at worst comparable to Iron Fist vs Rulk (In terms of Rand being able to knock Rulk across a good length of distance, but not really being able to hurt him..)
These kinds of feat say a lot about her striking power and skill, but they don't say as much about her speed and durability though, because Drax and Maxim aren't exactly known for their speed.
And her durability is kind of all over the place. Wolverine can stagger her (Sneak attack or not), Spidey can affect her, and Maxim can knock her out. Yet, there's what she took against Drax, and this insane Sun feat...
Not that Zealot is exactly a class 100 brick herself, looking at how she fared against, say, Midnighter..
Originally posted by SevenShackles
I think it would be a great fight that ends with gamora winning. Yeah zealot has beaten Maul. Im not saying that isn't awesome but the only think that stunts gamora and her feats are plot convenient happenings.. Like her nearly always being hit from behind out of nowhere, stopping her from continuing whatever beating she so happens to be handing out ATM. Zealot was handled differently in comic and given more chances to shine in my opinion but in a forum fight with a PIS-less Gamora using all her abilities. (even is supposed to have a precognitive tracking instinct -see link below- ) the only time she was allowed to shine was when she fought thanos and when she used pressure point attacks on characters normally unaffected by such attacks due to super durability. Something I don't think zealot could reproduce (strength) so given the strength Gamora has shown with her skill she pulls majority. Zealot is a badass and would make it one hell of a fight but loses.http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Gamora/gamoraprecog.jpg
You know that Jim Lee copied the Tarakian hot chick from the Heavy Metal movie when he created Zealot right?
Oh and I can dig your assessment. All of this stomp mess has to go at times.
Originally posted by Branlor Swift
She has been significantly upgraded since her sneak attack losses, and Spudder Man can hurt anyone
Is the extent of her upgrade defined yet, though? Or just nebulously implied as "better"?
If the Sun feat is any indication, she's pretty damned powerful now, but that's still just "one" feat of durability, impressive as it is.
If all we went by is one feat, then Rand is right up there with Gamora, via the train "Hiroshima nuke looks like a sparkler" feat. 😛
