zealot vs. gamora · Comic Book 'Versus' Forum

StyleTime Senior Member

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
The Maul feat sounds way better than hurting PG Drax multiple times, and one shotting She Hulk

I know, right? 😂

Originally posted by cdtm
And her durability is kind of all over the place. Wolverine can stagger her (Sneak attack or not), Spidey can affect her, and Maxim can knock her out pretty easy. Yet, there's what she took against Ronan, and this insane Sun feat...

The Wolverine example is the only relevant one. Everyone else is much stronger than Zealot.

Originally posted by Stoic
Oh and I can dig your assessment. All of this stomp mess has to go at times.

Pretty sure he was saying that on the assumption that Zealot actually beat Maul.....which she didn't.

Branlor Swift Dead

Originally posted by cdtm
Is the extent of her upgrade defined yet, though? Or just nebulously implied as "better"?
If the Sun feat is any indication, she's pretty damned powerful now, but that's still just "one" feat of durability, impressive as it is.
If all we went by is one feat, then Rand is right up there with Gamora, via the train "Hiroshima nuke looks like a sparkler" feat. 😛

Well, she outgrappled Terrax, and tossed Ronan a couple hundred yards which looked to be way out of her strength range previously. She also tanked a pissed off all out Ronan as well, when he had some pretty decent feats in Annihilation. I'd have to look back to find more, but I kind of want to reread GOTG anyway, so I'll get back to you on that one.

Her skill remains the same, maybe a little better, but her body is at least in the Spider-Man range.

Rand is way more powerful than her, let's be serious here.

Stoic Avenger

Originally posted by StyleTime
I know, right? 😂
The Wolverine example is the only relevant one. Everyone else is much stronger than Zealot.
Pretty sure he was saying that on the assumption that Zealot actually beat Maul.....which she didn't.

Did I say that she beat Maul? I said that she handled him pretty easily in a training Sim, and if that wasn't my exact words, this is what I meant.

Stoic Avenger

Originally posted by StyleTime
I know, right? 😂
The Wolverine example is the only relevant one. Everyone else is much stronger than Zealot.
Pretty sure he was saying that on the assumption that Zealot actually beat Maul.....which she didn't.

Oh yeah, and the instance that I'm talking about, didn't Z school Maul, and the Wolverine clone Cyblade?

SevenShackles Missa pro defunctis

Originally posted by Stoic
You know that Jim Lee copied the Tarakian hot chick from the Heavy Metal movie when he created Zealot right?
Oh and I can dig your assessment. All of this stomp mess has to go at times.

Seriously? That's awesome! Thanks for that bit of trivia man.

Glad you can dig it 😄

Originally posted by StyleTime
I know, right? 😂
The Wolverine example is the only relevant one. Everyone else is much stronger than Zealot.
Pretty sure he was saying that on the assumption that Zealot actually beat Maul.....which she didn't.

Yup on the wolverine comment. He also cut her and she healed rather quickly so it's also a nice early healing factor feat. (not that it matters with her most recent incarnations upgrade with her sun feat)

Oh I didn't think she beat him like in a real fight. Beat him as in = win the sim. And I called it awesome not to take away from it so I wouldn't get "but she did blahblah to maul" as a reply. Acknowledged it happened (in whatever shape or form) but gamora has more working for her than that (which was my point)

Sorry if It didn't come across that way 👆

Here is a question to anyone who knows. What exactly happen between gamora and Thor in infinity crusade? Iv seen her fight asgardian trolls and the such but I vaugly remember her fighting or having to deal/stall a power gem amped Thor. (it has been a long time) after I think they take Thor to Thanos so he can handle him. I don't own the comics so I can't check. If scans exist I'd like to see them.

Branlor Swift Dead

Originally posted by SevenShackles
Seriously? That's awesome! Thanks for that bit of trivia man.
Glad you can dig it 😄
Yup on the wolverine comment. He also cut her and she healed rather quickly so it's also a nice early healing factor feat. (not that it matters with her most recent incarnations upgrade with her sun feat)
Oh I didn't think she beat him like in a real fight. Beat him as in = win the sim. And I called it awesome not to take away from it so I wouldn't get "but she did blahblah to maul" as a reply. Acknowledged it happened (in whatever shape or form) but gamora has more working for her than that (which was my point)
Sorry if It didn't come across that way 👆
Here is a question to anyone who knows. What exactly happen between gamora and Thor in infinity crusade? Iv seen her fight asgardian trolls and the such but I vaugly remember her fighting or having to deal/stall a power gem amped Thor. (it has been a long time) after I think they take Thor to Thanos so he can handle him. I don't own the comics so I can't check. If scans exist I'd like to see them.

Originally posted by Dreamcatcher
Thor vs Infinity Watch
Note: Infinity Watch is a very powerful team composed of characters such as Dr. Strange, Drax with the power gem, Maxam, and Moondragon, among others.
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SevenShackles Missa pro defunctis

Gah another 'hit from behind' type deal. Anyway i still appreciate the scans Branlor Swift, Thanks.

"Id" The Man of Tomorrow

Originally posted by Stoic
I just need to ask, but do you think Gamora is going to stomp Zealot? I see this being a decent match up.

No she would not stomp. The match leans in her favor due to her strength, and healing factor.

celeyhyga17 Yawning Void

Originally posted by StyleTime
Zealot is probably more skilled, but she hasn't "dropped" any Class 100's.
Zealot is a high street by feats. The only real argument for her that I see, is if you think Gamora's healing factor isn't that great.
She didn't "take it to Maul." She didn't even beat Maul in a fight. She kicked a not-fully-grown Maul off her in a training simulator. It belongs in the same basket as Batman kicking the wind out of Wonder Woman or Captain America KOing Hulk, and isn't even as impressive as the aforementioned.
Maul, at any significant size, would crush Zealot.

Hey Prep, wut do u have to say about this?

Originally posted by cdtm
Is the extent of her upgrade defined yet, though? Or just nebulously implied as "better"?
If the Sun feat is any indication, she's pretty damned powerful now, but that's still just "one" feat of durability, impressive as it is.
If all we went by is one feat, then Rand is right up there with Gamora, via the train "Hiroshima nuke looks like a sparkler" feat. 😛

Look at scans. Looks pretty darn durable to me. Not to mention her healing factor is still up to par.

Originally posted by "Id"
No she would not stomp. The match leans in her favor due to her strength, and healing factor.

Not stomp, but she should win almost every time.

Still too fast and too skilled.
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She's got amazing speed (even dodges gun/lazer fire), skill (scans are pretty self explanatory), strength, stout durability, and still has one hell of a healing factor. Badassery all around!

Golgo13 Senior Member

I still don't see it as a stomp for Gamora. Midnighter (super fast, super strength, and battle computer) didn't stomp Zealot and neither would Gamora.

celeyhyga17 Yawning Void

Originally posted by Golgo13
I still don't see it as a stomp for Gamora. Midnighter (super fast, super strength, and battle computer) didn't stomp Zealot and neither would Gamora.

So let's be clear. U now think Gam wins..? Btw can u expand on ure statement of "taking it to Maul" in regards to Z?

Stoic Avenger

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
So let's be clear. U now think Gam wins..? Btw can u expand on ure statement of "taking it to Maul" in regards to Z?

She schooled him, and Reno if I remember correctly. Despite Styletime trying to lessen the feat, Zealot is a highly trained warrior, and Gamora isn't going to take her down without taking her licks.

Golgo13 Senior Member

Here is Z's respect thread. I don't think it includes the Midnighter feat where she fights for hours, but she this shows she is also super strong and fast. It also shows that she fights beings who are also very skilled. Unlike Gamora.

http://www.comicvine.com/profile/citizenbane/blog/zealot-capability-thread/80990/

SevenShackles Missa pro defunctis

Originally posted by Golgo13
Here is Z's respect thread. I don't think it includes the Midnighter feat where she fights for hours, but she this shows she is also super strong and fast. It also shows that she fights beings who are also very skilled. Unlike Gamora.
http://www.comicvine.com/profile/citizenbane/blog/zealot-capability-thread/80990/

Damn. At least I was nice enough to show specific feats to further the thread. I don't wanna blindly rummage threw a respect thread 🙁

Nah, but seriously what about zealots weapons? I forget if there was anything special about them or if that was only Nemesis (indestructible blade) if so how would you compare it to Gamora's Godslayer?

celeyhyga17 Yawning Void

Originally posted by Stoic
She schooled him, and Reno if I remember correctly. Despite Styletime trying to lessen the feat, Zealot is a highly trained warrior, and Gamora isn't going to take her down without taking her licks.

Scans...

Stoic Avenger

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Scans...

You'll just have to get Wildcats vol 1. It happened. Zealot isn't some scrub of a character, and to become the head of the Coda Assassins isn't just a title given out to anyone.

curryman Senior Member

Originally posted by Golgo13
It also shows that she fights beings who are also very skilled. Unlike Gamora.
http://www.comicvine.com/profile/citizenbane/blog/zealot-capability-thread/80990/

😆

Golgo13 Senior Member

Originally posted by SevenShackles
Damn. At least I was nice enough to show specific feats to further the thread. I don't wanna blindly rummage threw a respect thread 🙁
Nah, but seriously what about zealots weapons? I forget if there was anything special about them or if that was only Nemesis (indestructible blade) if so how would you compare it to Gamora's Godslayer?

It's not a big respect thread, so stop being lazy. 😖hifty: The scans with Midnighter, Coda Warriors, and Warblade's are all there.

Stoic Avenger

I maintain that if Gamora wins this, it won't be easy, she will find competition in Zealot.

Golgo13 Senior Member

Originally posted by Stoic
I maintain that if Gamora wins this, it won't be easy, she will find competition in Zealot.

I'm still asking for scans of Gamora fighting somoene with actual MA skill. We have seen Z fight the likes of Nemesis, Backlash, Midnighter, etc... but what about Gamora? Not saying she hasn't, but how has she done against Wolverine? Or Shang Chi? Or and Iron Fist?