Who could give WBHulk the best fight?

Started by Horrificus12 pages

Originally posted by TheHulk
Naija Boy and Psycho Gundam together....ain't that a sight...
Yeah. Awesome. 🙄

Now, you should probably be giving them a oil rub-down and feeding them grapes, before they lock you back in the chest.
😄

Originally posted by Horrificus
Yeah. Awesome. 🙄

Now, you should probably be giving them a oil rub-down and feeding them grapes, before they lock you back in the chest.
😄

Lol they would lock me in the chest as they fear I will skkin you and wear your face,like I'm Leatherface. 😈

Originally posted by TheHulk
Lol they would lock me in the chest as they fear I will skkin you and wear your face,like I'm Leatherface. 😈
Was that Leatherface that did that, or Hanibal Lector?

Originally posted by Horrificus
Was that Leatherface that did that, or Hanibal Lector?
Leatherface 😈

Re: Re: Re: Re: Who could give WBHulk the best fight?

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
Superman-pre Dcnu - Similar Strength, better Invulnerability, far superior speed, wins.
Hercules-Immortal marvel, with a kick to the nuts a nice fight, but he loses
Sentry-at his best but not voidtry - A good and long fight, with his speed he might get a draw
Thor-current - One shot win for Hulk
Silver Surfer-amp by the PC, but strength only - Hulk works for it but wins
Red Hulk - with LF Rulk, else Hulk
Gladiator-full confidence and determined - Stalemate due to speed
Orion-berserker enraged - Orion is faster and the better fighter, draw
Black Adam-WW3 - Adam wins, fatality
Captain Marvel-billy - CM
Juggernaut-standard - Stalemate, neither can put the other down
Thanos-strength only - Hulk, except with amping fists, then Thanos gets a chance
Doomsday-HP Version - HP DD wins, easier then everyone else here

so only dc wins...gotcha 👆

but yea...in a fist fight...wbh shit stomps everybody here...night not take out juggs tho

Originally posted by bbrem123
but yea...in a fist fight...wbh shit stomps everybody here...night not take out juggs tho

This.

Doomsday, followed closely by Thanos.

Either one would BREAK him.

Why are people not considering Sentry at his conception?
Dude was powerful enough to shattered worlds with the collateral of his punches.

then hulk broke all the bones in his face

Originally posted by h1a8
Why are people not considering Sentry at his conception?
Dude was powerful enough to shattered worlds with the collateral of his punches.
That's just stupid.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
Just saw this.

only thing i need to address is the fact that the green scar hulk that was the spotlight of the arc was his new "base" strength, in other words the power he rests at when he's as calm as the hulk can be relatively speaking.

I disagree, He was not "at base" as a matter of fact Tony had a pretty good advantage, until He got even more enraged.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
The nail in the proverbial coffin is that after the intelligencia hacked tony stark's killer satellite and turned it into a super cathexis ray, banner stripped of X% of his worldbreaker level power we saw in the climax of the greg pak ( + loeb/mcguiness) run, banner was able to transform into savage hulk once again. savage hulk was able to fight red hulk w/loeb force a few times, losing the first time and again losing his power through absorption. he never gained that savage hulk power back, but he did get almost everything he gained at the end of planet hulk back (which would be on top of his savage hulk power, now lost post penultimate red hulk fight) and he destroyed red hulk while still holding back his power. he was in calm, pak hulk state (non vengeful green scar).

worldbreaker unrestrained is a whole different animal, but it goes without saying as his calm green scar/pak hulk state is enough to not only replicate savage hulk's non-outlier best feats, but then when you add worldbreaker, which is just the same guy not pretending he's weaker he does things that pretty much transcend his war incarnation and other beyond usual savage hulk fare.

I don't know where did I gave the idea that I was directly comparing WWH with Savage Hulk. Maybe the example I used was not phrased correctly and I will try to explain better when I finish with my side by side comparison of The different incarnations of Hulk vs WWH and WBH (which are the basically the same persona)

While re reading the whole series, the WWH persona was set aside for one main reason, He is no longer a rampaging brute, but is a focused warrior, with a goal in mind, the feats performed were on the same level as those feats performed in the past, the various statements of him being at his "angriest" were actually not true, as he has been angrier before on other arcs, Was WWH the strongest incarnation of Hulk? No, for sure as We know, his strength fluctuates with rage and as I said before, he has been angrier, even if Pak says the contrary, the evidence says other wise.

Was WWH the most powerful incarnation up to that time? Yes, He was, because PAK created this new idea of Banner finally embracing the Hulk persona, which makes him have the dynamic strength of the Savage Hulk, at a professor Hulk base level, with the cunning and the smarts of Mr Fix it, and able and capable to reach critical mass like a Banner less Hulk with out the disadvantages of the Banner less persona and since Banner embraces the Hulk persona, He can keep the critical mass going with out affecting the Hulk's body.

My theories of Hulk as irrational or as illogical as they might sound to some, they are less far fetched than to theorize that WBH is skyfather level and that He can melt heralds with his punches. Not saying that you think this particularly.

So based on what I have seen and read WWH was not exactly the strongest Hulk, he was actually the most balanced and this was what it made him the most powerful. WWH became probably the strongest incarnation of Hulk when he reached critical mass (usually triggered by a personal loss) and his body was able to control the energy.

And sorry that I took some time to respond, I have re-read before I responded.

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
I disagree, He was not "at base" as a matter of fact Tony had a pretty good advantage, until He got even more enraged.

I don't know where did I gave the idea that I was directly comparing WWH with Savage Hulk. Maybe the example I used was not phrased correctly and I will try to explain better when I finish with my side by side comparison of The different incarnations of Hulk vs WWH and WBH (which are the basically the same persona)

While re reading the whole series, the WWH persona was set aside for one main reason, He is no longer a rampaging brute, but is a focused warrior, with a goal in mind, the feats performed were on the same level as those feats performed in the past, the various statements of him being at his "angriest" were actually not true, as he has been angrier before on other arcs, Was WWH the strongest incarnation of Hulk? No, for sure as We know, his strength fluctuates with rage and as I said before, he has been angrier, even if Pak says the contrary, the evidence says other wise.

Was WWH the most powerful incarnation up to that time? Yes, He was, because PAK created this new idea of Banner finally embracing the Hulk persona, which makes him have the dynamic strength of the Savage Hulk, at a professor Hulk base level, with the cunning and the smarts of Mr Fix it, and able and capable to reach critical mass like a Banner less Hulk with out the disadvantages of the Banner less persona and since Banner embraces the Hulk persona, He can keep the critical mass going with out affecting the Hulk's body.

My theories of Hulk as irrational or as illogical as they might sound to some, they are less far fetched than to theorize that WBH is skyfather level and that He can melt heralds with his punches. Not saying that you think this particularly.

So based on what I have seen and read WWH was not exactly the strongest Hulk, he was actually the most balanced and this was what it made him the most powerful. WWH became probably the strongest incarnation of Hulk when he reached critical mass (usually triggered by a personal loss) and his body was able to control the energy.

And sorry that I took some time to respond, I have re-read before I responded.

As much as I appreciate the effort to write this.....This is the most wrong assessment of The Hulk I have seen. ❌

You really need to leave it to The Hulk fans to judge his character,in fact I told you this before. Again though I like the effort but just no.

Originally posted by TheHulk
As much as I appreciate the effort to write this.....This is the most wrong assessment of The Hulk I have seen. ❌

TBH I am not expecting many Hulk fans to agree with it.

But I will back it up with scans when I finish and rebuttals will be welcomed

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
TBH I am not expecting many Hulk fans to agree with it.
I edited my post.

Since when is being a Hulk fan synonymous with wanting him to win every single fight he's in? How does liking the character have absolutely ANYTHING to do with thinking he should be at a particular level?

@Hulk

I do read Hulk, does that not entitles me to have an opinion about him?

He might not be my favorite Superhero, but I enjoy some of his comics and I have read plenty about him.

I can tell you that PAK knew the history of the Hulk and He was aware of a lot of Hulks mythos, as a matter of fact I bet you that He grew up reading Hulk comics, probably in the 70's

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
I do read Hulk, does that not entitles me to have an opinion about him?

He might not be my favorite Superhero, but I enjoy some of his comics and I have read plenty about him.

I can tell you that PAK knew the history of the Hulk and He was aware of a lot of Hulks mythos, as a matter of fact I bet you that He grew up reading Hulk comics.

I wasn't responding to you but rather the people who claim that it takes a "hulk fan" to understand how unbeatable he should be....

Originally posted by curryman
I wasn't responding to you but rather the people who claim that it takes a "hulk fan" to understand how unbeatable he should be....

Me neither I was responding to Hulk 😛

Originally posted by curryman
Since when is being a Hulk fan synonymous with wanting him to win every single fight he's in? How does liking the character have absolutely ANYTHING to do with thinking he should be at a particular level?
I don't think you understand the situation here 😐