Batman: Arkham Origins

Started by Estacado26 pages

Originally posted by Arachnid1
Really? I need to get on that. I haven't read too much of New52, but I hear DS has been rocking bullet proof armor now. What has he done thats more impressive than KOing Starfire with blunt force?

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=512852&pagenumber=2

Middle of the page Bane (off venom) vs Azrael (full gear) continues below it...

Ds is now wearing Nth armor he pretty much took a submarine to the face by a superman light type character after he got out from the wreck and killed the guy.
Got up from beig impaled almost instantly.Took a beating from Lobo.Whooped Hawkman's ass.Cut the batwing in half(iirc).

He is not more impressive by feats but seems just as good.

N52 Bane had Batman run from him like a chicken he also admited he cant beat Bane since his new venom made him infinitly stronger and smarter then Bruce.Jumped up to the top of a light tower with a single leap.Was about to kill Batman after beating the crap out of him.Was whooping on the Court of Owls.

Originally posted by Estacado
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=512852&pagenumber=2

Middle of the page Bane (off venom) vs Azrael (full gear) continues below it...

Thats kind of inconsistent. The dude beats Bane pretty handily their first fight but then gets taken out by Bane without venom in their second fight? Is that still JP Azrael, or is it the cop? Did it give any kind of explanation?

Originally posted by Estacado
Ds is now wearing Nth armor he pretty much took a submarine to the face by a superman light type character after he got out from the wreck and killed the guy.
Got up from beig impaled almost instantly.Took a beating from Lobo.Whooped Hawkman's ass.Cut the batwing in half(iirc).

He is not more impressive by feats but seems just as good.

N52 Bane had Batman run from him like a chicken he also admited he cant beat Bane since his new venom made him infinitly stronger and smarter then Bruce.Jumped up to the top of a light tower with a single leap.Was about to kill Batman after beating the crap out of him.Was whooping on the Court of Owls.

Those new 52 upgrades to both of those characters seem like a bit much. Cutting the Batwing in half and tanking a sub is ridiculous.

Nu52 Bane being infinitely stronger and smarter than Batman due to a new venom formula is just as ridiculous. Makes you wonder how does Bats ends up beating him. That said, this game does seem to be based off their original versions. Thank god they didn't incorporate any of that Nu52 stuff.

EDIT:

Found the Nu52 Bats vs Bane fight:

He doesn't seem that different from his old version besides being apparently smarter than before. Knightfall Bane trashed him worse. To be fair, that was after Batman was exhausted from a gauntlet of villains though. I still don't see anything that would put him in the same league as DS though. What did he do that was smarter?

After Jean Paul beat Bane.He stopped using venom and began to train and reached new levels of strenght.

Same page right above the Azrael fight.

Edit on the samepage there is a scan where Batman says new venom makes him smarter...the light tower jump is impressive however.He is now making an army to take over Gotham.iirc

I have a steam code for the millennium skin pack that I don't want. Anyone of you guys play this on pc?

I have been in match making for almost 30 mins now with the same 2 people. No one is joining....

I think I could get into an online match in the riddick game faster....and its been dead for at least two years....

Originally posted by -Pr-
I just want to see more of comic-y bane, I guess.

I was speaking about character wise lol. I am a massive Selina and Harley fan, so there's that to be considered. I think Ivy, across both games, has more of an impact than Shiva. I honestly wished there had been a bit more to Bruce Vs Shiva, as I personally think they should only fight one on one.


Well they definitely got the personality down right in Origins in that regard.

Ah. Wasn't sure if you were or not, but just wanted to be clear on that. Disagree about Ivy unless you were to compare her boss fight to Shiva's, but to each their own. And agreed on that last bit.

Originally posted by Arachnid1
Agreed. Shiva in comics should be able to destroy Batman one on one. She was completely undersold in this game.

Perhaps she'll be executed better in future game(s) if she's included again. Bane was undersold in both of RockSteady's games compared to this game, so we can hope.

As for Black Mask's treatment, I hated that too. I mean with other things he had been in like that Under the Red Hood movie (which he was downplayed in too), I would've thought this would be a game where he actually got his due with how much he was advertised in this game's trailers and everything, but nope. Turned out to be just a stepping stone for the Joker to make a grand intro again. I like the Joker as much as the next person and all, but it gets annoying after awhile when other villains get shafted in favor of him.

As for Deathstroke, I dunno. Was satisfied enough with the role he had in the story, thanks to the ending anyway.

Originally posted by BlackZero30x
I have been in match making for almost 30 mins now with the same 2 people. No one is joining....

I think I could get into an online match in the riddick game faster....and its been dead for at least two years....


That's depressing. Based on a previous post though, I think it's due to bugs or something that WB is still in the process of fixing. Still, the addition of multiplayer was a big mistake if it being dead this long is any indication.

Then again, perhaps it should be given more time still. Season pass aside, there's bound to be plenty still waiting to get this game around Christmas, etc. That might be when the multiplayer becomes more active.

Originally posted by Ridley_Prime

That's depressing. Based on a previous post though, I think it's due to bugs or something that WB is still in the process of fixing. Still, the addition of multiplayer was a big mistake if it being dead this long is any indication.

Then again, perhaps it should be given more time still. Season pass aside, there's bound to be plenty still waiting to get this game around Christmas, etc. That might be when the multiplayer becomes more active.

I hope so. I am not really a fan for the MP, as you know, but from an achievement standpoint I need it to be more active lol

Originally posted by Arachnid1
Thats kind of inconsistent. The dude beats Bane pretty handily their first fight but then gets taken out by Bane without venom in their second fight? Is that still JP Azrael, or is it the cop? Did it give any kind of explanation?

Those new 52 upgrades to both of those characters seem like a bit much. Cutting the Batwing in half and tanking a sub is ridiculous.

Nu52 Bane being infinitely stronger and smarter than Batman due to a new venom formula is just as ridiculous. Makes you wonder how does Bats ends up beating him. That said, this game does seem to be based off their original versions. Thank god they didn't incorporate any of that Nu52 stuff.

EDIT:

Found the Nu52 Bats vs Bane fight:

He doesn't seem that different from his old version besides being apparently smarter than before. Knightfall Bane trashed him worse. To be fair, that was after Batman was exhausted from a gauntlet of villains though. I still don't see anything that would put him in the same league as DS though. What did he do that was smarter?

You mean the Azrael who had a Armored Suit, and prepped to take him out, hmm makes sense, seeing how in the Later Comics Bane injected Azrael with Venom and then Proceeded to ****
HIS SHIT

Originally posted by RedX1852
You mean the Azrael who had a Armored Suit, and prepped to take him out, hmm makes sense, seeing how in the Later Comics Bane injected Azrael with Venom and then Proceeded to ****
HIS SHIT
Proceeded to **** his shit? They seem pretty even here when they were both on venom. Hell, Bane even uses his henchmen to help take him out while saying something along the lines of 'before you get to defeating me, you have to defeat them'. Stop playing up Bane to be something he's not. People like Deathstroke and Shiva always have been and always will be in a different league than Bane.

Originally posted by BlackZero30x
I hope so. I am not really a fan for the MP, as you know, but from an achievement standpoint I need it to be more active lol

Ugh, yeah... Speaking of which, I forget, but wasn't it mentioned that you unlock something special (a skin of some sort or something, I dunno what) for getting all the achievements? Was pleasantly surprised to have unlocked the Injustice Batman skin after getting all three of the challenge mode achievements with him. Although it's nothing particularly special like the Injustice Deathstroke costume in the game, I do still like it better than most of the other costumes in the Bat skin-pack. Will use Injustice Batman for whenever I attempt I am the Night, which will mainly be started to get the last couple predator challenges I need on the Worst Nightmare track.

Originally posted by Arachnid1
Proceeded to **** his shit? They seem pretty even here when they were both on venom. Hell, Bane even uses his henchmen to help take him out while saying something along the lines of 'before you get to defeating me, you have to defeat them'. Stop playing up Bane to be something he's not. People like Deathstroke and Shiva always have been and always will be in a different league than Bane.

okay, say Deathstroke that loses the Armor, Guns, Staff, and his Sword, and Fights Bane, wearing nothing but Army Pants in pure H2H in a Fight Club, and Bane loses his Venom to, lets see who wins Smart Ass Deathstroke is Strong but take away those Gadgets and what is he to a man that's good enough without them, don't overhype Deathstroke and Jerk Him Off, if they were to Fight in Just Army Pants with No Weapons, Armor, Venom Nothing who wins, who the **** wins, no prep just Hands, who?

Originally posted by RedX1852
okay, say Deathstroke that loses the Armor, Guns, Staff, and his Sword, and Fights Bane, wearing nothing but Army Pants in pure H2H in a Fight Club, and Bane loses his Venom to, lets see who wins Smart Ass Deathstroke is Strong but take away those Gadgets and what is he to a man that's good enough without them, don't overhype Deathstroke and Jerk Him Off, if they were to Fight in Just Army Pants with No Weapons, Armor, Venom Nothing who wins, who the **** wins, no prep just Hands, who?
I'm going to give it to the guy who KOs people like Starfire with his fists, and even one ups Batman. The guy who has reflexes that enable him to move as fast as he can think (which is 10x faster than any human like Bane or Batman). The dude who actually has enhanced strength and speed as the norm. The dude who's been able to go toe to toe with individual JL members besides the human one. Banes a lightweight compared to Deathstroke, with or without Venom.

Throw in Deathstrokes weapons and gear, and Banes even more f*cked. Banes a good physical challenge for Batman. He's a stepping stone for most other DC characters though, as are most of the Bat villains. They would all get torn a new *sshole just like Bane in a fight with most other DC metas.

Seems I overestimated I am the Night difficulty a bit. If you just dashboard right when you die before the game fully loads and registers that death, you'll be back at the last checkpoint you were at before, so it's basically like New Game Plus aside from that.

Sure would've been something if you got to unlock the "worst nightmare" Batman (the monstrous looking Batman that you see when temporarily controlling the Joker) as another alt skin. That came to mind anyway when I looked at the character trophy for it and the concept art. So badass looking.

Wonder what else the season pass will have to offer now, though aside from that I guess it's just waiting for the multiplayer to become more active. 😕

Did the they fix the gadget losing bug?
How did you get worst nightmare Batman trophy?
Im still missing like 3 and 1 profile and I completed everything besides the anarchy sign scanning.Missing the bottom 3 left to Judas Deathstroke.

Gadget losing bug? Is that where you just have to acquire the remote claw, disruptor, glue grenade, and such again the old fashioned way? If so, guess they didn't fix that.

Think I got that character trophy either from completing the last challenges of the worst nightmare predator track, or from just finishing I am the Night difficulty.

Regardless though, I think the overall statistics on my file is bugged, because after you get all the Riddler things (and other side quests checked off), done all the challenge mode stuff as Batman (excluding DLC maps), and beat I am the Night difficulty, your file should be at 100%, no? Instead, my file only went from 97 to 98% from beating I am the Night, and I had done everything else beforehand. 😬 Good thing there wasn't another Perfect Knight achievement (getting 100%) like in Asylum and City, or I'd be robbed.

Also, yeah. I'm still missing some of those said character trophies at the bottom as well, somehow. As far as the Gotham Intel, it's not just the Anarchy signs you have to scan to 100%, but the hidden Cyrus Pinkney ones as well. The latter is optional however achievement-wise, but provides an interesting backstory on the man behind the architecture of much of the buildings and stuff in Gotham. Really made Arkham Origins live up to its name. Was kinda like listening to the recordings from those signs you had to scan in Arkham Asylum.

Oh, on that note, the 1 profile you said you're missing is most likely Cyrus Pinkney. You can just youtube where to scan his stuff and the Anarchy signs if you're interested.

You must have got it when you beat I am the night then.
I also started I am the night but after reentering the game I lost remote claw and the detonator.
Though I havent checked for any updates since the Deathstroke pack cause my net is pretty shitty at home.

Progress tracker is kinda crappy as well it says I have 45/46 trophies yet 3 is missing.

Originally posted by Arachnid1
I'm going to give it to the guy who KOs people like Starfire with his fists, and even one ups Batman. The guy who has reflexes that enable him to move as fast as he can think (which is 10x faster than any human like Bane or Batman). The dude who actually has enhanced strength and speed as the norm. The dude who's been able to go toe to toe with individual JL members besides the human one. Banes a lightweight compared to Deathstroke, with or without Venom.

Throw in Deathstrokes weapons and gear, and Banes even more f*cked. Banes a good physical challenge for Batman. He's a stepping stone for most other DC characters though, as are most of the Bat villains. They would all get torn a new *sshole just like Bane in a fight with most other DC metas.

I hate DS Fanboys

I think DS would beat Bane, but I don't think DS can be argued as being anything higher than a low meta. Imo.

Originally posted by RedX1852
I hate DS Fanboys

Not what i meant, but what you said is hypocritical

How?