30 Silver Backs vs Batman

Originally posted by Classic NES
But, he's wrapped in it.

Why don't you post some scans? Because I can show him talking hits from characters more powerful than a silver back gorilla.

OP states no PIS.

Batman has a consistent history of, provided he's actually hit, being phased and adversely effected physically by people who possess far less strength than a gorilla. Unless we throw all of that out in favor of him taking hits from people like Darkseid.

I really hope we're not going to suggest Batman would outright no sell a gorilla hitting him, let alone more than one.

Originally posted by Badabing
If Jake continues his anti-Batman propaganda, I'm closing the thread and declaring Batman the winner, 10/10. sneer

biscuits

Not anti-Batman propaganda as much as it pointing out facts. biscuits

Originally posted by curryman
Yes and plenty of it.

Harvey was even able to effectively cover for Batman as a crime-fighter.

I don't recall Penguin laying out Batman with hits. Nor do I recall him and Two-Face fighting a whole lot the last years.

Oh geeze, weve got another namorsubby on our hands. 😛

And yes, Penguin and Two Face (and many others of their level) have hurt Batman with just their physical attacks. And theyre all MUCH weaker than an ape.

Originally posted by DTM
Oh geeze, weve got another namorsubby on our hands. 😛

Answer me.

Do you guys read comics? Do you realize that what human heroes, especially batman, are physically capable of is so far beyond whats humanly possible that its laughable? And youre trying to tell me a single ape can replicate those feats? Are you guys braindead? Can an ape dodge a bullet? No? Can an ape move acrobatically and calculated anywhere near to what bruce has displayed in comics? No. So why they hell couldn't bruce evade a bunch of gorillas limited to realistic standards for a gorilla when hes a comic book character whos pulled of more things than a damn ape could ever hope to?

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Not anti-Batman propaganda as much as it pointing out facts. biscuits

Originally posted by curryman
Answer me.

Clearly nothing I say will make you see this fighting scenario as anything but clearly biased for the unbeatable Batman, so I wont bother. This set up is so clearly against Batman, yet you and NS believe he wins, even easily. Ive said enough here, so enjoy your POV, Im proud that its not one that I myself share.

Originally posted by namorsubby
Do you guys read comics? Do you realize that what human heroes, especially batman, are physically capable of is so far beyond whats humanly possible that its laughable? And youre trying to tell me a single ape can replicate those feats? Are you guys braindead? Can an ape dodge a bullet? No? Can an ape move acrobatically and calculated anywhere near to what bruce has displayed in comics? No. So why they hell couldn't bruce evade a bunch of gorillas limited to realistic standards for a gorilla when hes a comic book character whos pulled of more things than a damn ape could ever hope to?

I've read a lot of Batman comics.

Trying to project all of Batman's feats onto a "real world" ape and claim that because they haven't done what Batman has that means they can't hope to hurt him is ridiculous.

I mean, c'mon. We've gone from Batman winning this (which isn't impossible, admittedly) to Batman doing so easily to now arguing whether a gorilla can even harm him in his Batsuit.

WTF.

Originally posted by DTM
Clearly nothing I say will make you see this fighting scenario as anything but clearly biased for the unbeatable Batman, so I wont bother. This set up is so clearly against Batman, yet you and NS believe he wins, even easily. Ive said enough here, so enjoy your POV, Im proud that its not one that I myself share.

That's wonderful.

Now answer me when the Penguin physically hurt Batman the last few years?

I can't remember them throwing down for a long, long time.

You laughed in my face when I said that Joker and Two-Face were martial artists. You don't need to look further than year one or batman and robin to see this claimed backed up in comics.

You wanna stop acting like I'm wildly set in on Batman being unkillable and try to actually respond to what I'm saying? Rather than responding some idiotic persona that you've created in your own head.

Originally posted by Badabing
I'm about to point the facts out to your face...with my fist! You wretched Thor bag!!!!11 ahuh

I hope you like re-extinction.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
OP states no PIS.

It's not PIS if it's not an outlier. Happens too frequently to count as such.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank

Batman has a consistent history of, provided he's actually hit, being phased and adversely effected physically by people who possess far less strength than a gorilla.

So, post some scans if it's so consistent.

Originally posted by Classic NES
It's not PIS ifit's not an outlier. Happens too frequently to count as such.

So, post some scans if it's so consistent.

It's PIS if Batman can endure class 100 blows and survive, yet be brutalized by far less than that on an average basis (when he is physically overwhelmed). Either that or his suit's just that durable to be able to take those blows which are capable of shattering mountains and effortlessly crushing through steel, but not that durable enough to get him to no sell attacks from people at or even blow his physical level as a human.

The fact that scans need to be posted in order to prove a gorilla - a creature far stronger than an average physically fit adult male - can hurt Batman in his suit is astounding.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
I've read a lot of Batman comics.

Trying to project all of Batman's feats onto a "real world" ape and claim that because they haven't done what Batman has that means they can't hope to hurt him is ridiculous.

I mean, c'mon. We've gone from Batman winning this (which isn't impossible, admittedly) to Batman doing so easily to now arguing whether a gorilla can even harm him in his Batsuit.

WTF.

in the middle of the 30 is....tough. even if he could climb a tree (and i'd say he was definitely faster than they are) he might delay things, and pick a few off. he wouldn't even be able to sharpen a branch for a weapon. maybe break a branch and use the sharpened end for a bit. if he can't even get to a tree and has to fight free h2h? no way i can see him winning against that many. he would need to break free of the circle (which he might be able to do) then put some distance between them and set traps. i think he might be able to do it, but he would need distance. not sure he could get it.....tough gauging comicbook guys against real-life things.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
It's PIS if Batman can endure class 100 blows and survive, yet be brutalized by far less than that on an average basis (when he is physically overwhelmed).

Yes, it is PIS if the averages have him being hurt by less. But, I never said class 100, you don't have to be class 100 to be stronger than a gorilla.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank

Either that or his suit's just that durable to be able to take those blows which are capable of shattering mountains and effortlessly crushing through steel, but not that durable enough to get him to no sell attacks from people at or even blow his physical level as a human.

This is a False Dichotomy.

You don't have to be able to shatter mountains with your blows. In order to be ranked as more powerful than silver back gorilla. Unless you're arguing that you need to be class 100 to defeat a bunch of gorillas? Those are some gorillas.

Batman taking hits from Aquaman was used as an example of his suits durability, Jake has every right to make the response he did.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Someone as physically unremarkable (compared to Batman) such as Harvey Dent is able to hurt him with his bare hands and feet provided he connects. Even a no name thug who gets lucky and swings a 2x4 or bat or pipe can hurt Batman. This is without factoring in his exposed lower face.

PIS...

But seriously, while Batman taking blows from guys like Class 100 characters is is PIS, I would argue him being hurt by normal guys is a lower showing. After all, Batman's suit is routinely shown to be resistant to things like bullets and even rockets. Why would such examples be considered PIS? The truth likely lies in between him being hurt by goons and surviving a rocket to the face.

Originally posted by ares834
PIS...

But seriously, while Batman taking blows from guys like Class 100 characters is is PIS, I would argue him being hurt by normal guys is a lower showing. After all, Batman's suit is routinely shown to be resistant to things like bullets and even rockets. Why would such examples be considered PIS? The truth likely lies in between him being hurt by goons and surviving a rocket to the face.

It's PIS, get over it.

And for the ****ing umpteenth time, it's stated the OP mentioned no weapons, no utilities, no nothing.

Originally posted by Sixth_Winged
It's PIS, get over it.

And for the ****ing umpteenth time, it's stated the OP mentioned no weapons, no utilities, no nothing.