Originally posted by Naija boy
So coming back to the actual topic at hand , did trion jugs actually do anything of note other than the whole dimension punch thing? Which is rather unquantifiable and not really a good indicator of anything.
Originally posted by Naija boyno but his steps should be as powerful as his punches if he really wants to step on you 😉
So coming back to the actual topic at hand , did trion jugs actually do anything of note other than the whole dimension punch thing? Which is rather unquantifiable and not really a good indicator of anything.
Originally posted by Naija boy
So coming back to the actual topic at hand , did trion jugs actually do anything of note other than the whole dimension punch thing? Which is rather unquantifiable and not really a good indicator of anything.
Originally posted by TheGodKiller
I'd like to hear your perspective on why is it unquantifiable.
Well mainly because we have no recognizable basis for comparison regarding the amount of force actually necessary to "punch through dimensional walls". For things like destroying a building, or planet, or even solar system or galaxy, we are able to get rough estimates of the amount of force involved using real life parallels. Even in cases where we might not have the requisite knowledge to calculate the exact amount of force necessary, we can intuitively make some relative comparisons i.e it takes far far more force to destroy a planet than a moon, a star than a planet, to disintegrate something vs to simply break etc.
On the other hand, with all this dimensional wall stuff, we really dont have any accurate means of guaging how much force would be needed either in real life or even in the comics themselves. We are sort of left comparing apples and oranges. How does one compare a character punching through a dimensional wall to another shattering a supposedly unbreakable metal (say caps shield) with a similar punch? Can we really assume that if the punch that pierced the dimensional wall had hit the unbreakable metal, the metal would have shattered?. And thats just for cases where the dimensional wall was actually something that physically manifested and could be hit (ala SBP). In cases where it was intangible, like this juggernaut case, the force of the punch is not even acting on anything physical so any possible intuition that we could have of the level of force required to do such a thing is invalidated by default as our understanding of the concept of force is grounded in the tangible/physical contexts
I think that the very nature of these "dimension" piercing type feats is always pretty ambiguous and that they dont lend themselves well towards relative power level comparisons. They are more of eye candy showings which are definitely supposed to be "impressive" but beyond that, lack the potential for much further assesement
Originally posted by Naija boyWe could always use the process of elimination.
Well mainly because we have no recognizable basis for comparison regarding the amount of force actually necessary to "punch through dimensional walls". For things like destroying a building, or planet, or even solar system or galaxy, we are able to get rough estimates of the amount of force involved using real life parallels. Even in cases where we might not have the requisite knowledge to calculate the exact amount of force necessary, we can intuitively make some relative comparisons i.e it takes far far more force to destroy a planet than a moon, a star than a planet, to disintegrate something vs to simply break etc.On the other hand, with all this dimensional wall stuff, we really dont have any accurate means of guaging how much force would be needed either in real life or even in the comics themselves. We are sort of left comparing apples and oranges. How does one compare a character punching through a dimensional wall to another shattering a supposedly unbreakable metal (say caps shield) with a similar punch? Can we really assume that if the punch that pierced the dimensional wall had hit the unbreakable metal, the metal would have shattered?. And thats just for cases where the dimensional wall was actually something that physically manifested and could be hit (ala SBP). In cases where it was intangible, like this juggernaut case, the force of the punch is not even acting on anything physical so any possible intuition that we could have of the level of force required to do such a thing is invalidated by default as our understanding of the concept of force is grounded in the tangible/physical contexts
I think that the very nature of these "dimension" piercing type feats is always pretty ambiguous and that they dont lend themselves well towards relative power level comparisons. They are more of eye candy showings which are definitely supposed to be "impressive" but beyond that, lack the potential for much further assesement
Make a list. A HUGE list of characters that have used energy blasts, incredibly powerful physical attacks, etc. From Spidey, all the way up to Galactus.
Then, from that list, point out the number of actions that resulted in breaking down dimensional barriers. From there, it should be a simple act of comparison and deciding upon different levels of effect.
It should be a short list. 😄
Two characters that imo have been given more credit that what the deserved.
Other than the original shock value of trion and the rest of the examplars got from their introductions as exemplars they did not do nothing much.
And the other, well.
Having said that. I think is harder to breach dimensional barriers via punch than to break a planet.
Imo Trion should win this
Originally posted by a88378438
I'm from Asia,I love DC,marvel comic,I can read them,but my enligh was bad.Now,I go to try study enligh
Originally posted by TheHulk
HAHA! I'm from Asia too! Lol your location says your from Aus? Lol I'm from Singapore XD
Asia is a nice little place. You guys should get together! 🙄
Originally posted by Damborgson1.at the end of the day,I speak better English than he does 🤨
Well it's a good thing you're just phucking fluent aren't ya?---------
If Trion was so strong he was actually punching through dimensions I'd have to give it to him.
2.I come from a country where we have something called Singlish! Never heard of it? Just be happy I ain't speaking it.
3.GTFO
Originally posted by TheHulk
1.at the end of the day,I speak better English than he does 🤨2.I come from a country where we have something called Singlish! Never heard of it? Just be happy I ain't speaking it.
3.GTFO
1. And that gives you some sort of right to bash those who speak less well than you? The point is, you have no right to make those who don't speak the language well feel bad for trying, much less when you yourself can't do it very well either.
2. I couldn't care less where you're from.
3. Or what? 🙂
Originally posted by Damborgson1.First of all I ain't bashing him!? Lol hell even If I did I apologized when he got mad! As a matter a fact 4 people,the day I posted about His Bad language,I saw speaking like Monkeys in the forum 🤨 lol actually all I said was "Can No one speak proper English nowadays" lol that ain't a direct Comment about him...indirectly actually. But I'll admit I commented about his English before.
1. And that gives you some sort of right to bash those who speak less well than you? The point is, you have no right to make those who don't speak the language well feel bad for trying, much less when you yourself can't do it very well either.2. I couldn't care less where you're from.
3. Or what? 🙂
2.Nor could I care less if you cried when Hulk lifted Mjolnir 😉
3.Or I'll take Thors helmet and shove it down your throat 🙂
Originally posted by TheHulk
1.First of all I ain't bashing him!? Lol hell even If I did I apologized when he got mad! As a matter a fact 4 people,the day I posted about His Bad language,I saw speaking like Monkeys in the forum 🤨 lol actually all I said was "Can No one speak proper English nowadays" lol that ain't a direct Comment about him...indirectly actually. But I'll admit I commented about his English before.2.Nor could I care less if you cried when Hulk lifted Mjolnir 😉
3.Or I'll take Thors helmet and shove it down your throat 🙂
1. After a post with improper english, you choose to say "CAN NO WUN SPEAKE PROPUR ENGLISH NOWUDAIS?!" and it's somehow better because you're not quoting him or something? Stop trying to defend something that has no saving, you actually concede in your own post. Be a man, and man up to being a dick in this case.
2. That's irrelevant, and you more than obviously trying to shift the conversation. Aren't you pathetic?
3. Ok lol?
Originally posted by Damborgson1.I'm posting from my IPhone,which is rather difficult and I got no time to correct any mistake, THANK YOU VERY MUCH!
1. After a post with improper english, you choose to say "CAN NO WUN SPEAKE PROPUR ENGLISH NOWUDAIS?!" and it's somehow better because you're not quoting him or something? Stop trying to defend something that has no saving, you actually concede in your own post. Be a man, and man up to being a dick in this case.2. That's irrelevant, and you more than obviously trying to shift the conversation. Aren't you pathetic?
3. Ok lol?
2.I was joking
3.Good, glad we settle that.
Originally posted by TheHulk
1.I posting from my IPhone,which is rather difficult and I got no time to correct any mistake, THANK YOU VERY MUCH!2.I was joking
3.Good, glad we settle that.
1. What the hell are you even talking about?
2. You were, but you were still trying to shift.
3. You're hopeless. Later.
Originally posted by Damborgson1. I can't afford to check for spelling mistakes nor do I have the time to type "perfect English"
1. What the hell are you even talking about?2. You were, but you were still trying to shift.
3. You're hopeless. Later.
2.Loo no it was a joke and just that. We can talk about the Hulk lifting the hammer in the "Thor discussion thread".
3.Finally Cya later.
Originally posted by Naija boy
Well mainly because we have no recognizable basis for comparison regarding the amount of force actually necessary to "punch through dimensional walls". For things like destroying a building, or planet, or even solar system or galaxy, we are able to get rough estimates of the amount of force involved using real life parallels. Even in cases where we might not have the requisite knowledge to calculate the exact amount of force necessary, we can intuitively make some relative comparisons i.e it takes far far more force to destroy a planet than a moon, a star than a planet, to disintegrate something vs to simply break etc.On the other hand, with all this dimensional wall stuff, we really dont have any accurate means of guaging how much force would be needed either in real life or even in the comics themselves. We are sort of left comparing apples and oranges. How does one compare a character punching through a dimensional wall to another shattering a supposedly unbreakable metal (say caps shield) with a similar punch? Can we really assume that if the punch that pierced the dimensional wall had hit the unbreakable metal, the metal would have shattered?. And thats just for cases where the dimensional wall was actually something that physically manifested and could be hit (ala SBP). In cases where it was intangible, like this juggernaut case, the force of the punch is not even acting on anything physical so any possible intuition that we could have of the level of force required to do such a thing is invalidated by default as our understanding of the concept of force is grounded in the tangible/physical contexts
I think that the very nature of these "dimension" piercing type feats is always pretty ambiguous and that they dont lend themselves well towards relative power level comparisons. They are more of eye candy showings which are definitely supposed to be "impressive" but beyond that, lack the potential for much further assesement
Which is pretty quantifiable based on what modern physics tells us. And the numbers are fairly huge in themselves, so I daresay that the feat easily rivals WBH's dark dimension rampage.
Originally posted by TheGodKillerLOL!? Punching through space and time highly surpasses what WBH did 😱
Good thing then that it wasn't just a baseless hyperbole about Cain breaking "dimensional walls" but actually him punching through the very fabric of space-time itself.
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/3/33809/1808065-x_men088p11_super.jpgWhich is pretty quantifiable based on what modern physics tells us. And the numbers are fairly huge in themselves, so I daresay that the feat easily rivals WBH's dark dimension rampage.
