Originally posted by yaadaveyaa
i think this has been done but dont let carver come in here and see this all hell will break loose his spped is no where near supes speed btw in my opinion hulk beats superman he just is gonna make him angrier and angrier until he snaps the man of steel in half but im sure the dc fan boys would like to argue that point
Don't bait people.
Originally posted by armedforbattleWhat? I am just saying that was a bannerless Hulk and thus is not really applicable. Could he do it if pissed enough with banner? Maybe. We will never know. Now go on and select a few high end Superman feats to disregard if you want. Superman will still have more stuff than everyone.
So we are gonna start disregarding high end feats even if they are canon? Lol you just threw a lot of Superman's feats out the window
Originally posted by h1a8
If you read many Hulk comics through the majority of his history then Hulk achieves about 1-3 miles per leap when traveling. This is his average. This is also common knowledge for Hulk fans. It's even stated in handbooks (which comics back up in this case). Maybe 1 or 2 times Hulk actually leaped more than that (one time out of orbit I believe).How is common comic book knowledge baseless lol? If we see Hulk do it for a majority then why isn't it his average?
Post some scans supporting this average.
Lol, you hear that Hulk fans, it's common knowledge that Hulk can only leap 1 to 3 miles on average. This is also evidence that he's on average far weaker than Doomsday because he was capable of leaping 50 miles or so.
Seriously, please, stop. Hulk was capable of leaping ridiculous distances from way back in the day (Jumped from Atlantis to Wakanda which is like halfway around the world no?). He can (And has) casually leaped hundreds of miles (Nearly a thousand once), almost into orbit. Lol, Rulk jumped from the Moon to Earth.
Nowadays freaking She-Hulk has casually leaped across New York when pissed.
This is a calm Banner Hulk casually leaping (50, 100 or more Kilometers) all the way back from Vol. 2:
http://www.mynetimages.com/viewimage/c19b73bb97
Again, please stop. The only way your argument is even remotely plausible is if you specifically make it clear, that a calm Hulk leaps short distances, and he only does it because he wants to. Equivalent to someone walking at an extremely slow pace because he's bored or lazy etc.
Superman's healing factor may not be on par with the hulks but it's constantly underrated. SBP cut a hole through his hand and it healed instantly and it improves the closer he gets to the sun. Sounds familiar?
The advantage superman has over the hulk is that he is more durable, harder to cut.
Superman takes this.
Originally posted by h1a8no, no & no
Doomsday is several orders more durable than Hulk. Doomdsay was a lot stronger than average Savage Hulk. (Covering 30-50 mile wide cities in a single leap vs. 1-3 miles). DD was a lot faster than Hulk. I'm pretty sure if DD was as slow as Hulk then Superman would have beat him easier.Sonics don't affect Superman since his eardrums and other innards are nigh indestructible. He can survive in cores of red giants (which have the equivalent of many nuclear bombs going off every second).
Originally posted by curryman
Always is when one guy's holding back and the other isn't.
Superman vs. Hulk is generally going to be a hard fight for both guys 9/10 times. The only way it won't be is if someone thinks Superman becomes some sort of powerset skewed forum mode controlled character or if someone thinks Hulk just gets pissed and obliterates Kal from existence with gamma energy.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Superman vs. Hulk is generally going to be a hard fight for both guys 9/10 times. The only way it won't be is if someone thinks Superman becomes some sort of powerset skewed forum mode controlled character or if someone thinks Hulk just gets pissed and obliterates Kal from existence with gamma energy.
Please calm down the projecting, I've barely said anything 🙂
Are you one of those guys who subscribe to the idea that Thor and Hulk are as strong as Superman, yet somehow he's on their level?
Originally posted by curryman
Please calm down the projecting, I've barely said anything 🙂Are you one of those guys who subscribe to the idea that Thor and Hulk are as strong as Superman, yet somehow he's on their level?
What exactly am I projecting?
I don't think Thor is as strong as Superman and Hulk's strength could be anywhere from around or on Superman's level to beyond it. But considering the effectiveness of their overall power sets and general formidability, yes, the three of them are on the same wavelength.
Anyone who doesn't think that the three of them are essentially at the same level is deluded, in my honest opinion. And there's bound to be Hulk, Thor, and Superman fanboys who disagree vehemently.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
?I don't think Thor is as strong as Superman and Hulk's strength could be anywhere from around or on Superman's level to beyond it. But considering the effectiveness of their overall power sets and general formidability, yes, the three of them are on the same wavelength.
Anyone who doesn't think that the three of them are essentially at the same level is deluded, in my honest opinion.
Have we seen anything from Hulk yet that's put him on Superman's strength level?
I mean I've read through V1 and V2 and the defenders stuff and every single fight he's had with most other marvel heroes. Hell, I've probably read more Hulk than I've read Superman.
Where as these crazy feats?
You say that they're equal but when did Hulk become Thor's equal? All I see are a bunch of fights with Hulk going all out and Thor using his hands.
Originally posted by curryman
Have we seen anything from Hulk yet that's put him on Superman's strength level?I mean I've read through V1 and V2 and the defenders stuff and every single fight he's had with most other marvel heroes. Hell, I've probably read more Hulk than I've read Superman.
Where as these crazy feats?
Well, after reading all those Hulk feats and fights, if you're still not convinced he has the stuff that puts him on Superman's level, I really don't know what to tell you, especially considering who he's thrown down with.
Green Scar definitively is at that level and even Savage Hulk's had some WTF level feats.
Originally posted by curryman
You say that they're equal but when did Hulk become Thor's equal? All I see are a bunch of fights with Hulk going all out and Thor using his hands.
Hulk's raw physical power and healing factor (both of which scale rapidly upwards depending on his anger) put him on Thor's level. I'll be the first to admit I prefer Thor as a character exponentially more so than Hulk, but when they fight in melee, it's eventually going to result in a losing battle for Thor. If Thor were to go all out and actively use all of his powers or even take on Hulk like he does cosmic beings, he'd probably fare a lot better. Conversely, Hulk could just "stop holding back" and wind up blowing up the planet without even touching it.
Looking at their respective histories, fights, feats, and overall standing, I don't see how anyone can deny that Thor, Hulk, and Superman aren't in the same league.
Originally posted by -Pr-I think the best supes vs hulk fight was that one old school comic were supes and hulk fought for so long that hulk had to revert back to banner cuz they were fighting for so long.
Hulk is on Superman's level strength-wise. You could argue that one is a little stronger than the other, but if they fought, buckets of blood would be shed.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Well, after reading all those Hulk feats and fights, if you're still not convinced he has the stuff that puts him on Superman's level, I really don't know what to tell you, especially considering who he's thrown down with.Green Scar definitively is at that level and even Savage Hulk's had some WTF level feats.
Who has the Hulk legitimately thrown down with?
He fights Thor, but it's a Thor that's always dropping his hammer and maybe throwing 1 lightningbolt.
He's fought Gladiator. Near a radioactive plant.
He's fought a Surfer in some undecided fights.
He's gotten dropped by Black Bolt twice.
He beat the old Hyperion...
He lost to Juggernaut twice and then beat him as War.
You wanna compare this to Superman's track record?
Originally posted by JakeTheBank......they aren't and both companies don't see it that way they should be kinda close with supes Thor over hulk but naw they not. Marvel will always put Thor in a slugfest with hulk so he can lose and any dc vs marvel comic will have supes treating hulk like he doesn't even have super strength standing there tanking hulk blows.
Hulk's raw physical power and healing factor (both of which scale rapidly upwards depending on his anger) put him on Thor's level. I'll be the first to admit I prefer Thor as a character exponentially more so than Hulk, but when they fight in melee, it's eventually going to result in a losing battle for Thor. If Thor were to go all out and actively use all of his powers or even take on Hulk like he does cosmic beings, he'd probably fare a lot better. Conversely, Hulk could just "stop holding back" and wind up blowing up the planet without even touching it.Looking at their respective histories, fights, feats, and overall standing, I don't see how anyone can deny that Thor, Hulk, and Superman aren't in the same league.