Hulk vs superman(no super speed)

Originally posted by mighty adam
......they aren't and both companies don't see it that way they should be kinda close with supes Thor over hulk but naw they not. Marvel will always put Thor in a slugfest with hulk so he can lose and any dc vs marvel comic will have supes treating hulk like he doesn't even have super strength standing there tanking hulk blows.

What are you talking about?

In those crossovers, Superman/Hulk was always close, with Superman himself putting over just how strong Hulk was. In Marvel/DC, Superman put out Hulk after mentioning he nearly stood up to everything he had. And in that crossover where Superman "tanked" Hulk's blows, the story goes on to even cast doubt as to whether or not Superman could indefinitely stand there and just tank the blows (which were amping exponentially) before being forced to block one. And in JLA/Avengers, Superman's dials went up to "11", but even then, he mentioned how Thor was possibly the single toughest foe he faced.

So, yeah, even if we go by the companies perspectives - not that they count due to crossovers - Superman is barely able to beat Hulk and Thor after a grueling fight. None of them give the impression that Superman is far greater than either of them.

Originally posted by curryman
Who has the Hulk legitimately thrown down with?

He fights Thor, but it's a Thor that's always dropping his hammer and maybe throwing 1 lightningbolt.

He's fought Gladiator. Near a radioactive plant.

He's fought a Surfer in some undecided fights.

He's gotten dropped by Black Bolt twice.

He beat the old Hyperion...

He lost to Juggernaut twice and then beat him as War.

You wanna compare this to Superman's track record?

Hercules
Thor
Sentry
Loeb Force Rulk
Namor
Etc.

Low balling Hulk doesn't change the fact that he's on Superman's level.

He went toe to toe with sentry who went all out or voided out, not entirely sure, but the power sentry, ino it was wwh but still, sentry would destroy supes

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Hercules
Thor
Sentry
Loeb Force Rulk
Namor
Etc.

Low balling Hulk doesn't change the fact that he's on Superman's level.

How dare you?

How dare you claim that I'm lowballing? I'm tempted to report your for trolling just for that. This is hands down the most respectless shit I've seen from you yet.

I mentioned Thor in my post didn't I?

Sentry? How's that go again? They had one fight where Hulk couldn't even scratch him, and then one where they burn eachother out.

Rulk? Yeah, he beat him. Congratulations! I guess this puts Savage Hulk at around or above the level of Galactus, Grandmaster and Uatu cause those were the guys Rulk were taking it to!

Namor? Hercules? Of course Hulk is above these guys. Why would I mention them? They're not on Superman, Thor or Hulk's level???

I'm lowballing when I'm talking about Hulk's high-end fight and ignoring his fights with lower-level characters??? Where do you get off spouting that? I didn't mention his fights with Iron Man, Wonder-Man, Sasquatch, etc either. They're not relevant at this level!

Originally posted by curryman
How dare you?

How dare you claim that I'm lowballing? I'm tempted to report your for trolling just for that. This is hands down the most respectless shit I've seen from you yet.

I mentioned Thor in my post.

Sentry? How's that go again? They had one fight where Hulk couldn't even scratch him, and then one where they burn eachother out.

Namor? Hercules? Of course Hulk is above these guys. Why would I mention them? They're not on Superman, Thor or Hulk's level???

I'm lowballing when I'm talking about Hulk's high-end fight and ignoring his fights with lower-level characters??? Where do you get off spouting that? I didn't mention his fights with Iron Man, Wonder-Man, Sasquatch, etc either. They're not relevant at this level!

😂

Go ahead and report me if you feel the need to?

His fights with Thor, even when Thor's handicapped to melee, are still some of the best fights in comics, especially when Thor is able to do stuff like shatter Celestial armor with his strikes or stagger beings such as Galactus.

Both Sentry and Hulk were holding back at that point. And Sentry's higher end feats definitely put him on Superman's level with some room to argue he could possibly be above it.

Namor and Hercules have consistently given fits to the likes of Thor in close quarters. Hulk's gone from stalemating Herc to basically rearranging his face with a handful of strikes. Hercules wasn't fighting back, but fighting back or not, Savage Hulk wouldn't be able to deal that kind of damage to Herc. Green Scar was.

Just looking at Greg Pak's run of Hulk alone and it's clear - painfully so - that Hulk is absolutely on the level of Thor and Superman if not with the potential to go beyond them. So yeah, taking that into account, if that doesn't give the impression that Hulk has the means to operate on Superman's level, then yeah, that absolutely is lowballing.

Originally posted by curryman

Sentry? How's that go again? They had one fight where Hulk couldn't even scratch him, and then one where they burn eachother out!

Originally posted by LeonBuco666
He went toe to toe with sentry who went all out or voided out, not entirely sure, but the power sentry, ino it was wwh but still, sentry would destroy supes

ok if u dont know what ur talking about when it comes to sentry and the void try and not post it at all during that fight that was 100% sentry unleashing that was 0% void if the void comes out he erases hulk from memory beating him so bad compare the correct showings bcuz superman cant compare to sentry at his highest lvl this lvl hulk and this no speed superman are decently even matched but the hulk is going to have a gigantic advantage that superman needs to win he loses because of the disadvantage

I do know what im talking about i just couldnt remember wether it was void coming out or bob not holding back but either way hulk wins this not at first but eventually he will surpass supes in strength an durability

Hulk vs Thor is like Superman vs Diana, but with more sexual tension.

Originally posted by LeonBuco666
😂 if i could id get scans but theres a panel where hulk punches sentry and completely busts his whole face up, 1 punch......and hulk was trying to persuade sentry not to fight him

Shut up, you scrub.

I'm talking about the fight in Sentry/Hulk 1.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
His fights with Thor, even when Thor's handicapped to melee, are still some of the best fights in comics, especially when Thor is able to do stuff like shatter Celestial armor with his strikes or stagger beings such as Galactus.

They are great fights.

No testaments to Hulk's ability to fight Thor on equal terms. But here, I'll go around.

By your own admission Thor is handicapped to not using his strongest physical means or energy manipulation or weather control.

Hulk is barely edging out wins in these fights (and its arguable).

Now in your head, this makes Hulk equal to Superman and Thor.

Why?

Because when Thor is performing at his very best, he's injuring Galactus and Celestials.

Okay, thank you.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Both Sentry and Hulk were holding back at that point. And Sentry's higher end feats definitely put him on Superman's level with some room to argue he could possibly be above it.

Okay. I get it.

Sentry and Hulk fight. Hulk can't touch him.

They fight him later after Hulk's had an upgrade.

Both are holding back apparently, even though the Sentry is letting Hulk hit him.

They both burn out.

Sentry at his peak, when he's not holding back/in this arc, is almost on Superman's level.

Ergo, Hulk is on superman's level.

Why? Because he and Sentry (at a lowpoint) burnt eachother out. Okay!

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Namor and Hercules have consistently given fits to the likes of Thor in close quarters. Hulk's gone from stalemating Herc to basically rearranging his face with a handful of strikes. Hercules wasn't fighting back, but fighting back or not, Savage Hulk wouldn't be able to deal that kind of damage to Herc. Green Scar was.

Another good one. Namor and Hercules do well against a handicapped Thor, who by your own admission is not on Superman's level in physicality (Namor hasn't but sure, let's go along with your insanity).

When Hercules is fighting they stalemate and when he's not Hulk can rearrange his face.

This puts Hulk on Superman's level.

How?

Well, when Herc's not fighting Hulk did a lot of damage to him and Savage Hulk couldn't do that. Okay!

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Just looking at Greg Pak's run of Hulk alone and it's clear - painfully so - that Hulk is absolutely on the level of Thor and Superman if not with the potential to go beyond them. So yeah, taking that into account, if that doesn't give the impression that Hulk has the means to operate on Superman's level, then yeah, that absolutely is lowballing.

Okay, I get it.

One writer has Hulk (by no feats) on level with Thor and Superman and going beyond them.

I disagree with this.

Ergo I am only playing to Hulk's low feats, you know, mentioning some of the few wins the Hulk has against heralds. This is lowballing.

Me disagreeing with ambiguous feats of various versions of Hulk, but regardless of that bringing up what few wins he has against heralds Handicapped-Thor and Hyperion. THIS IS LOWBALLING

Originally posted by -Pr-
Hulk vs Thor is like Superman vs Diana, but with more sexual tension.

LOL literally spit water out of my mouth reading this

Originally posted by yaadaveyaa
LOL literally spit water out of my mouth reading this

badawe

Originally posted by LeonBuco666
I do know what im talking about i just couldnt remember wether it was void coming out or bob not holding back but either way hulk wins this not at first but eventually he will surpass supes in strength an durability

maybe my words got a lil harsh i didnt mean for it to come out as rude as it did that fight shows off like .5% of what sentry/void can do like he toyed around and fought phsyically with one of the strongest versions of hulk which eventually he woulda lost but none the less hulk does win this eventually and breaks supes into small pieces

Originally posted by yaadaveyaa
maybe my words got a lil harsh i didnt mean for it to come out as rude as it did that fight shows off like .5% of what sentry/void can do like he toyed around and fought phsyically with one of the strongest versions of hulk which eventually he woulda lost but none the less hulk does win this eventually and breaks supes into small pieces

Originally posted by -Pr-
Hulk vs Thor is like Superman vs Diana, but with more sexual tension.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Hulk vs Thor is like Superman vs Diana, but with more sexual tension.

😂 😂

Originally posted by LeonBuco666
its fine you cant take part in a debate without being a lil bit harsh, and yeah i was just stating the fact hulk busted up sentrys face whilst he was holding back with one punch bcuz curryman said hulk couldnt scratch him...and yeah if hulks fights last long enough he could beat anyone, IF they lasted long enough tho

So wwh would have beaten Zeus if the fight lasted long enough?

Originally posted by -Pr-
Hulk vs Thor is like Superman vs Diana, but with more sexual tension.

The lowballing here is insane.

Saying Superman would win isn't lowballing.

So either add something constructive, or don't post.