Predators, Aliens, and Engineers vs. Star Wars

Started by juggerman5 pages

Originally posted by KingD19
Because you're saying, Star Wars can only have this many people and weapons and equipment.

Then you turn around and say, we don't know what numbers the Engineers and Predators had or all their space weapons and ships since it wasn't shown, but it's safe to assume they're awesome.

You can't try to limit one side to what was shown at one time, and then give the other side made up arguments.

Also you're trying to force the SW side to be Post-Rebellion which is when it was at it's weakest in the films. Even though the OP didn't specify and probably meant the SW universe as a whole.

I'm not limiting the amount of people in Star Wars at all. I'm using most current forms so they wouldn't have the Death Star or an army of droids. They would still have hundreds of planets housing billions of people and as i said earlier their space tech is powerful.

I never said "awesome". I said it's safe to say they are "formidable" seeing as how they are a warrior race that loves to kill and has shown some superior tech than the standard blasters and shitty armor we see in SW. And i think it was agree upon that the Preds have two planets worth of fighters and the Engineers also have two. That is not a lot compared to Star Wars yet you still complain this is weighed against them?

I'm not trying to "force" it anywhere. It was not stated in the OP and we all know that "unless otherwise stated we use current versions". Current for Star Wars is Post Civil War whether you like it or not. Not stated equals current not "what ever time period i wish to make my side better".

Originally posted by quanchi112
A combined assault from these three species versus the Star Wars universe. Star wars universe is unaware of the attack until it happens.

There is no mention of era of the Star Wars Universe. We use what we know of them against the threat.

We have Droid and Clone armies. Plus Jedis and Death Stars. Plain and simple.

If we go by the end of Return of the Jedi then the Star Wars Universe is decimated and rebuilding their forces.

Originally posted by the ninjak
There is no mention of era of the Star Wars Universe. We use what we know of them against the threat.

We have Droids and Clone armies. Plus Jedis and Death Stars. Plain and simple.

Originally posted by juggerman
It was not stated in the OP and we all know that "unless otherwise stated we use current versions". Current for Star Wars is Post Civil War whether you like it or not. Not stated equals current not "what ever time period i wish to make my side better".

I swear, bad OPs are the bane of this forum.

Originally posted by the ninjak
I swear, bad OPs are the bane of this forum.

Look at who started it....

Originally posted by the ninjak
There is no mention of era of the Star Wars Universe. We use what we know of them against the threat.

We have Droid and Clone armies. Plus Jedis and Death Stars. Plain and simple.

If we go by the end of Return of the Jedi then the Star Wars Universe is decimated and rebuilding their forces.

Decimated is not correct at all. The Rebels had destroyed no where near one-tenth of the Empire's forces at that point. The prequels give you some idea of how large a force the Empire had at its height. Palpatine used what he had to rule the entirety of the galaxy. What the rebels took out was nothing except for the destruction of the super weapons.

Originally posted by the ninjak
There is no mention of era of the Star Wars Universe. We use what we know of them against the threat.

We have Droid and Clone armies. Plus Jedis and Death Stars. Plain and simple.

If we go by the end of Return of the Jedi then the Star Wars Universe is decimated and rebuilding their forces.

Every combined Star Wars character from the films.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Every combined Star Wars character from the films.

Well poop

quanchi...for someone who habitually lays out lazy and vague premises and has to modify throughout the thread, you have real balls to accuse others of thread tampering, bro.

Until some one here can show me where, either the, ALiens, engineers or Predators are capable of such sophisticated space warfare that the Star Wars universe has displayed then this match sizes up kinda like this...,a fleet of soldiers in rafts and a gyro=copter Vs a fleet of F-14s' Yeah, incase you didn't guess, the F-14s are meant to represent the SW universe here.

Originally posted by jinXed by JaNx
Until some one here can show me where, either the, ALiens, engineers or Predators are capable of such sophisticated space warfare that the Star Wars universe has displayed then this match sizes up kinda like this...,a fleet of soldiers in rafts and a gyro=copter Vs a fleet of F-14s' Yeah, incase you didn't guess, the F-14s are meant to represent the SW universe here.

Well the OP does state that SW doesn't know until they are attacked so i see the only way the team wins is by the Preds stealthly taking out the higher ups, forcing a surrender. Unlikely but it's all they got now imo

Jedi's solo all of them

Originally posted by juggerman
Well the OP does state that SW doesn't know until they are attacked so i see the only way the team wins is by the Preds stealthly taking out the higher ups, forcing a surrender. Unlikely but it's all they got now imo

Highly unlikely. The military is massive and there are actually a ridiculous number of capable leaders to command the armies in combat. It's not looking too well.

Originally posted by Ascendancy
Highly unlikely. The military is massive and there are actually a ridiculous number of capable leaders to command the armies in combat. It's not looking too well.

Yeah which is why I said it was unlikely. Forcing an early surrender is their only hope

This thread makes me flaccid.

It is unlikley StarWars would win.

Predators have the advanced Ships and would pose a threat in regards to space battles. Even if SW came out on top they wouldnt come out with no casualties.

Aliens have a tendency to sneak on board ships, wipe out/capture and entire crew, and make more of themselves. Even if SW has all the clone troopers and you say they have more numbers that doesnt help when the troopers and used to breed more Aliens. They can take over a planet in days and a ship in a few hours.

All of this is without using the concept of the Engineers because I dont know much about them. But a single one managed to desimate nearly all that was left of the Prometheus crew.

Even a Jedi wouldnt be able to defeat a horde of Aliens and it is hard to see a Light Saber deflecting a plasma bolt. Even so the Jedi got beat by a few troopers with guns. Honestly I only see Yoda forseeing the Cloaking of the Predators or the incredible stealth of the Aliens.

Now if SW had a few Terminators it would be easier to say SW wins...

But honestly I dont see it.

Originally posted by Scarlet Fox
It is unlikley StarWars would win.

Predators have the advanced Ships and would pose a threat in regards to space battles. Even if SW came out on top they wouldnt come out with no casualties.

Pretty sure we're using the movies here not the Comics & Games

Predator ships are weak from what's shown in movies.

Originally posted by focus4chumps
quanchi...for someone who habitually lays out lazy and vague premises and has to modify throughout the thread, you have real balls to accuse others of thread tampering, bro.
You sound like such a child. I didn't tamper with anything. Cry more.

Originally posted by Supra
Jedi's solo all of them
One Predator could solo the entire Jedi temple with a self destruction.

Originally posted by Scarlet Fox
It is unlikley StarWars would win.

Predators have the advanced Ships and would pose a threat in regards to space battles. Even if SW came out on top they wouldnt come out with no casualties.

Aliens have a tendency to sneak on board ships, wipe out/capture and entire crew, and make more of themselves. Even if SW has all the clone troopers and you say they have more numbers that doesnt help when the troopers and used to breed more Aliens. They can take over a planet in days and a ship in a few hours.

All of this is without using the concept of the Engineers because I dont know much about them. But a single one managed to desimate nearly all that was left of the Prometheus crew.

Even a Jedi wouldnt be able to defeat a horde of Aliens and it is hard to see a Light Saber deflecting a plasma bolt. Even so the Jedi got beat by a few troopers with guns. Honestly I only see Yoda forseeing the Cloaking of the Predators or the incredible stealth of the Aliens.

Now if SW had a few Terminators it would be easier to say SW wins...

But honestly I dont see it.

One, Preds don't have advanced ships. We've literally never seen anti-ship weaponry fired from one Pred vessel into another and therefore we can't assume it exists.

Two, every colony/ship/world the aliens have taken over in the film has been because Wayland Corp wanted them intact. What happened when they ran rampant in the second AvP film? The military nuked the entire outbreak and that was that. You really think Palpatine would hesitate to wipe out a few cities, ships, or even worlds to stop the spread of Aliens?

Jedi vs Pred, unless it's hand to hand the Jedi will run circles around them and cut them down. We see humans utilizing a little mud and human speed to kill Preds and Predaliens in the films. We see standard rounds take down aliens. None of them have defenses against Force abilities nor do the have any answers for their demonstrated speed.

As to the Engineers, one killed a crew of humans only two of who were armed at the time. In a war going up against an entire Galaxy of foes things just might be different.

This is films only and none of the opposition has shown that the have the means to compete against the Star Wars' forces.