Originally posted by SevenShackles
Most likely be more intense given the rivalry between the two and viciousness vegeta tends to have when he has the upper hand. SSJ4 being an upper hand.
Like the Majin vegeta VS goku fight on steroids.
It Vegeta could beat him, it would be a long drawn out intense fight like when they fought in Buu Saga. I dont think Vegeta would just over power him instantly. Goku is a master martial artist and a much better fighter then Vegeta. Over the z saga and GT, Goku trained much more than Vegeta and was always pushing himself to the next lvl.
Originally posted by Supra
It Vegeta could beat him, it would be a long drawn out intense fight like when they fought in Buu Saga. I dont think Vegeta would just over power him instantly. Goku is a master martial artist and a much better fighter then Vegeta. Over the z saga and GT, Goku trained much more than Vegeta and was always pushing himself to the next lvl.
Doesn't matter. SSJ4 Goku, the master martial artist, was getting his shit pushed in by Omega Shenron and Shenron wasn't overly skilled iirc. The difference in power between SSJ3 and SSJ4 is much larger than the difference between Goku and Shenron was imo
With equal power levels as shown in their fight in the Buu arc, Vegeta and Goku are neck and neck in terms of fighting skill, and there's Vegeta's tenacity to consider as shown in the Saiyan Saga and the anime version of his stalling of Kid Buu
It's fine to use anime here since we're talking GT and all
Goku still has an edge with Instant Movement
But on topic, Vegeta slaughters Goku here since their power levels are...far from equal
Originally posted by Supra
Being easily in the Top 3 best fighters in the DBS universe I think it matters a lot. I dont think Vegeta even makes top 10.
It does not matter when this match up makes Vegeta this much stronger. Goku's attacks wouldn't even register to him. Look at Vegeta when he fought Fat Buu. Buu has absolutely zero skill and his power still easily overwhelmed Vegeta to the point where he had to be saved from being beaten to death. Now just imagine if their skill was equal but Buu was 10 times stronger. Goku's skill would mean dookie
Originally posted by juggerman
It does not matter when this match up makes Vegeta this much stronger. Goku's attacks wouldn't even register to him. Look at Vegeta when he fought Fat Buu. Buu has absolutely zero skill and his power still easily overwhelmed Vegeta to the point where he had to be saved from being beaten to death. Now just imagine if their skill was equal but Buu was 10 times stronger. Goku's skill would mean dookie
But where are the feats of SS4 Vegeta? He basically gets his ass kicked the whole series, and it was not even a real SS4 Transformation, it was a hacked transfomation. Goku's transformation was much stronger. And in GT goku fought a lot of people in kid form as SS3 as well. But going off adult Goku SS3 I still say it would be an intense battle
Originally posted by Supra
But where are the feats of SS4 Vegeta? He basically gets his ass kicked the whole series, and it was not even a real SS4 Transformation, it was a hacked transfomation. Goku's transformation was much stronger. And in GT goku fought a lot of people in kid form as SS3 as well. But going off adult Goku SS3 I still say it would be an intense battle
Are you suggesting that Vegeta would suddenly lose his fighting ability at SSJ4? He is equally as skilled as Goku and SSJ4 is proved much more powerful than SSJ3. Goku gets stomped
Originally posted by juggerman
Are you suggesting that Vegeta would suddenly lose his fighting ability at SSJ4? He is equally as skilled as Goku and SSJ4 is proved much more powerful than SSJ3. Goku gets stomped
I know Goku would lose, I just dont think it would be a TKO with one punch as you suggest. I think he could put up a damn good fight, after all he has been doing it his whole career everyone he fought was always stronger then him, yet he succeeded almost every time, he never gives up even in the face of death.
Originally posted by Supra
But where are the feats of SS4 Vegeta?
being able to fuse with Goku in the first place means he's equal to him
this is not hard to understand at all
SS4 Vegeta = Limits Surpassed SS4 Goku > Syn Shenron > Super Android 17 after absorbing the 10x kamehameha > Super Saiyan 4 Goku > Great Ape Baby Vegeta > Super Baby Vegeta 2 > Super Baby Vegeta 1 >>> Super Saiyan 3 GT Goku >>>> Super Saiyan 3 Z Goku
that is how the foodchain goes
this wouldn't be fight, it'd be an absolute slaughter
Originally posted by Crimson Dragoon
being able to fuse with Goku in the first place means he's equal to himthis is not hard to understand at all
SS4 Vegeta = Limits Surpassed SS4 Goku > Syn Shenron > Super Android 17 after absorbing the 10x kamehameha > Super Saiyan 4 Goku > Great Ape Baby Vegeta > Super Baby Vegeta 2 > Super Baby Vegeta 1 >>> Super Saiyan 3 GT Goku >>>> Super Saiyan 3 Z Goku
that is how the foodchain goes
this wouldn't be fight, it'd be an absolute slaughter
Now with that line up I can understand. Poor Goku🙁