Hero Edition: How does Marvel's Top 10 Heralds stack up against DC's?

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Originally posted by Golgo13
Why do you think team Marvel is more versatile?

I see the following criteria:

1. Flying Brick- Strength, Blast, Unrestricted Flight/Travel, Physical Durability.
2. Manipulation of Energy or Matter or Reality or Time, or combinations of these, etc.
3. Magic- Magic as the base for all powers and abilities.
4. Light-Construct- Constructs, Some Energy Manipulation (but not high-level), etc.
5. Speed- Speed as the base for all powers and abilities.

6. True Herald- Characters that encompass 2 or more of the above.

1. Superman- Flying Brick
2. Wally West/Barry- Speed + Time Manipulation (low level) + Energy Manipulation (low level) very close to "True Herald"
3. Mr. Majestic- Flying Brick
4. Orion- Flying Brick (on a scooter)
5. Captain Marvel- Flying Brick
6. Firestorm- Energy Manipulation + Possibly "True Herald" if I am missing other abilities he has recently.
7. Kyle Rayner/Hal- Light Construct
8. Weird- "True Herald"- Flying Brick + Energy Manipulation
9. Dr. Fate- Magic
10. Sentinel- Light Construct

vs

Marvel's
1. Thor/BRB- "True Herald"- Flying Brick + Magic + Energy Manipulation, Time Manipulation (low level), plus
2. Surfer- "True Herald"- Flying Brick + Speed + Energy Manipulation, plus
3. Dr. Strange- Magic
4. Quasar- Energy Manipulation + Light Construct
5. Sentry- "True Herald"- Flying Brick + Energy Manipulation (low level)
6. Hulk- Brick
7. Black Bolt- Flying Brick + Energy Manipulation
8. Gladiator- Flying Brick
9. Genis- "True Herald"- Flying Brick + Energy Manipulation, plus
10. Sersi- Energy Manipulation + Flying Brick (low level)

Originally posted by Horrificus
Without going too overboard with details, I will just show what I was thinking, at a glance.

I see the following criteria:

1. Flying Brick- Strength, Blast, Unrestricted Flight/Travel, Physical Durability.
2. Manipulation of Energy or Matter or Reality or Time, or combinations of these, etc.
3. Magic- Magic as the base for all powers and abilities.
4. Light-Construct- Constructs, Some Energy Manipulation (but not high-level), etc.
5. Speed- Speed as the base for all powers and abilities.

6. True Herald- Characters that encompass 2 or more of the above.

1. Superman- Flying Brick
2. Wally West/Barry- Speed + Time Manipulation (low level) + Energy Manipulation (low level)
3. Mr. Majestic- Flying Brick
4. Orion- Flying Brick (on a scooter)
5. Captain Marvel- Flying Brick
6. Firestorm- Energy Manipulation
7. Kyle Rayner/Hal- Light Construct
8. Weird- "True Herald"- Flying Brick + Energy Manipulation
9. Dr. Fate- Magic
10. Sentinel- Light Construct

vs

Marvel's
1. Thor/BRB- "True Herald"- Flying Brick + Magic + Energy Manipulation, Time Manipulation (low level), plus
2. Surfer- "True Herald"- Flying Brick + Speed + Energy Manipulation, plus
3. Dr. Strange- Magic
4. Quasar- Energy Manipulation + Light Construct
5. Sentry- "True Herald"- Flying Brick + Energy Manipulation (low level)
6. Hulk- Brick
7. Black Bolt- Flying Brick + Energy Manipulation
8. Gladiator- Flying Brick
9. Genis- "True Herald"- Flying Brick + Energy Manipulation, plus
10. Sersi- Energy Manipulation + Flying Brick (low level)

Nice break down, bud, but some of those are a little off, IMO. Sentinel is more than "Light Constructs". He's been shown to manipulate energy and time before.

Orion's Mother Box can pretty much do anything. Including:

Summoning Boom Tubes - dimensional travel
Matter transmutation
Energy manipulation
Force Field creation
Healing
Gravity control
Levitation
Emotion Control
Illusion casting
Technopathy
Fire manipulation
Phasing
Telekinesis
Dimensional manipulation

List made by beatbok's.

Dr. Fate is also more than a Mage. He has uber TK, super strength, telepathy, and speed.

Originally posted by Golgo13
Nice break down, bud, but some of those are a little off, IMO. Sentinel is more than "Light Constructs". He's been shown to manipulate energy and time before.

Orion's Mother Box can pretty much do anything. Including:

List made by beatbok's.

Dr. Fate is also more than a Mage. He has uber TK, super strength, telepathy, and speed.

Your info does change things up a bit. Yup.

Originally posted by Horrificus
That's cool. I will take that stuff into account. Not an expert in all of them, obviously.
But, good to know where I was missing info.
Thanks.

Your info does change things up a bit. Yup.

Here are some scans of Alan's feats. Including speeding up time (centuries in mere minutes), so he save the planet.

http://www.comicvine.com/forums/battles-7/x-men-vs-jsa-692517/?page=2

Originally posted by Golgo13
Here are some scans of Alan's feats. Including speeding up time (centuries in mere minutes), so he save the planet.

http://www.comicvine.com/forums/battles-7/x-men-vs-jsa-692517/?page=2

These guys actually think the X-Men could take JSA?

Originally posted by curryman
These guys actually think the X-Men could take JSA?

I wouldn't be surprised. Some of them think Midnighter could take Spider-Man and Wolverine at once. 😱

Maybe if the X-Men lineup contained Magneto, Xavier, Juggernaut, Phoenix, etc...

Originally posted by curryman
These guys actually think the X-Men could take JSA?

Originally posted by Golgo13
I wouldn't be surprised. Some of them think Midnighter could take Spider-Man and Wolverine at once. 😱

I don't see how this is apt analogy to thinking a team of high-end heralds losing to mainly metas, but I get what you're saying.

Originally posted by Golgo13
Nice break down, bud, but some of those are a little off, IMO. Sentinel is more than "Light Constructs". He's been shown to manipulate energy and time before.

Orion's Mother Box can pretty much do anything. Including:

Dr. Fate is also more than a Mage. He has uber TK, super strength, telepathy, and speed.

Based on your details for Sentinel and Orion being correct, I tweaked my post.
It would close the gap between the 2 teams, concerning "Versatility".

1. Flying Brick- Strength, Blast, Unrestricted Flight/Travel, Physical Durability.
2. Manipulation of Energy or Matter or Reality or Time, or combinations of these, etc.
3. Magic- Magic as the base for all powers and abilities.
4. Light-Construct- Constructs, Some Energy Manipulation (but not high-level), etc.
5. Speed- Speed as the base for all powers and abilities.

6. True Herald- Characters that encompass 2 or more of the above.

1. Superman- Flying Brick
2. Wally West/Barry- Speed + Time Manipulation (low level) + Energy Manipulation (low level) very close to "True Herald"
3. Mr. Majestic- Flying Brick
4. Orion- Flying Brick (on a scooter) or "True Herald" if Motherbox powers are used on a frequent basis.
5. Captain Marvel- Flying Brick
6. Firestorm- Energy Manipulation + Possibly "True Herald" if I am missing other abilities he has recently.
7. Kyle Rayner/Hal- Light Construct
8. Weird- "True Herald"- Flying Brick + Energy Manipulation
9. Dr. Fate- Magic
10. Sentinel- "True Herald"- Light Construct + Energy and Time Manipulation

vs

Marvel's
1. Thor/BRB- "True Herald"- Flying Brick + Magic + Energy Manipulation, Time Manipulation (low level), plus
2. Surfer- "True Herald"- Flying Brick + Speed + Energy Manipulation, plus
3. Dr. Strange- Magic
4. Quasar- Energy Manipulation + Light Construct
5. Sentry- "True Herald"- Flying Brick + Energy Manipulation (low level)
6. Hulk- Brick
7. Black Bolt- Flying Brick + Energy Manipulation
8. Gladiator- Flying Brick
9. Genis- "True Herald"- Flying Brick + Energy Manipulation, plus
10. Sersi- Energy Manipulation + Flying Brick (low level)

Originally posted by Golgo13
Martian Manhunter has been shown a genius in Stormwatch, seeing as hes been teaching Jenny Quantum. The Engineer as well.

Nobody's saying they're not smart.

1. Which team is more versatile? Split.
2. Which team is faster? Split or DC. Flash and all that.
3. Which team has better energy output? Split.
4. Which team stacks up better against cosmic threats? Split.
5. Which team is smarter? Split.
6. Which team has the better fighters? Gonna say a split again.
7. Which team is stronger? A lot of people are saying DC here but I'm confused as to how anyone can justify Superman/Orion/Majestic/Captain Marvel being any stronger than Hulk/Gladiator/Sentry/Thor/Beta Ray Bill/Black Bolt. I say Marvel. More high-end strength, also Hulk.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
1. Which team is more versatile? Split.
2. Which team is faster? Split or DC. Flash and all that.
3. Which team has better energy output? Split.
4. Which team stacks up better against cosmic threats? Split.
5. Which team is smarter? Split.
6. Which team has the better fighters? Gonna say a split again.
7. Which team is stronger? A lot of people are saying DC here but I'm confused as to how anyone can justify Superman/Orion/Majestic/Captain Marvel being any stronger than Hulk/Gladiator/Sentry/Thor/Beta Ray Bill/Black Bolt. I say Marvel. More high-end strength, also Hulk.

Originally posted by mighty adam
you know dam well Orion is stronger then bill and blackbolt and sentry majestic is way stronger then anybody on marvel team but hulk that being said hulk has to getting mad enough to get on Orion, supes, CM, majestic LV dc is stronger way stronger.

Orion is stronger than Black Bolt but with his ability to amp, he isn't a pushover either. You'd be hard-pressed to prove he has any advantage over Sentry or Bill and if there is one, it's slim at best.

Lol, what? Majestic isn't way stronger than any of the big guns on Marvel's team. And DC isn't way stronger overall either. Hulk starts out at near elite strength at this point, this isn't 1962 anymore.

Check your weed bro, someone's been splicing it with rat poison.

Simply put, Hulk/Gladiator/Sentry/Thor/Beta Ray Bill/Black Bolt are collectively stronger than Superman/Orion/Majestic/Captain Marvel. Noticeably so.

Dont forget classic fate was strong too.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Orion is stronger than Black Bolt but with his ability to amp, he isn't a pushover either. You'd be hard-pressed to prove he has any advantage over Sentry or Bill and if there is one, it's slim at best.

Lol, what? Majestic isn't way stronger than any of the big guns on Marvel's team. And DC isn't way stronger overall either. Hulk starts out at near elite strength at this point, this isn't 1962 anymore.

Check your weed bro, someone's been splicing it with rat poison.

Simply put, Hulk/Gladiator/Sentry/Thor/Beta Ray Bill/Black Bolt are collectively stronger than Superman/Orion/Majestic/Captain Marvel. Noticeably so.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Orion is stronger than Black Bolt but with his ability to amp, he isn't a pushover either. You'd be hard-pressed to prove he has any advantage over Sentry or Bill and if there is one, it's slim at best.

Lol, what? Majestic isn't way stronger than any of the big guns on Marvel's team. And DC isn't way stronger overall either. Hulk starts out at near elite strength at this point, this isn't 1962 anymore.

Check your weed bro, someone's been splicing it with rat poison.

Simply put, Hulk/Gladiator/Sentry/Thor/Beta Ray Bill/Black Bolt are collectively stronger than Superman/Orion/Majestic/Captain Marvel. Noticeably so.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Lol, what? Majestic isn't way stronger than any of the big guns on Marvel's team. And DC isn't way stronger overall either. Hulk starts out at near elite strength at this point, this isn't 1962 anymore.

Someone's been hanging out at herochat and comicvine.

Originally posted by curryman
Someone's been hanging out at herochat and comicvine.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Orion is stronger than Black Bolt but with his ability to amp, he isn't a pushover either. You'd be hard-pressed to prove he has any advantage over Sentry or Bill and if there is one, it's slim at best.

Lol, what? Majestic isn't way stronger than any of the big guns on Marvel's team. And DC isn't way stronger overall either. Hulk starts out at near elite strength at this point, this isn't 1962 anymore.

Check your weed bro, someone's been splicing it with rat poison.

Simply put, Hulk/Gladiator/Sentry/Thor/Beta Ray Bill/Black Bolt are collectively stronger than Superman/Orion/Majestic/Captain Marvel. Noticeably so.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
1. Which team is more versatile? Split.
2. Which team is faster? Split or DC. Flash and all that.
3. Which team has better energy output? Split.
4. Which team stacks up better against cosmic threats? Split.
5. Which team is smarter? Split.
6. Which team has the better fighters? Gonna say a split again.
7. Which team is stronger? A lot of people are saying DC here but I'm confused as to how anyone can justify Superman/Orion/Majestic/Captain Marvel being any stronger than Hulk/Gladiator/Sentry/Thor/Beta Ray Bill/Black Bolt. I say Marvel. More high-end strength, also Hulk.