IMHO, with PIS/CIS off, Thor would should get WRECKED by any mid/high herald worth a damn without Mjolnir, hell even many low heralds should do it.
Without Mjolnir he loses a lot of defense and offense and mobility :
1) He's used Mjolnir to deflect/absorb energy attacks
2) As a shield to block physical attacks
3) Flying at respectable speeds
4) BFRing opponents
5) Exotic crap writers pull from their @$$e$ when plot calls for it
6) Firing off a variety of energy blasts
You get the picture. And Odin help him if his opponent takes the fight to where Thor's atmospheric powers are ineffectual : space, bottom of the ocean, etc... He's now doubly phucked.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
He's basically a sufficiently pissed off Savage Hulk with no healing factor (guy has incredible damage soak, though) or amping, but with a fair degree of skill when it comes to brawling and hand to hand combat as well as less precise, yet no less potent, weather manipulation.
I'd say he's slightly less than a determined Savage Hulk.
That's one fight, sure. But we also have instances of him stalemating Hulk in a direct contest of strength, Thor sans Odin Force and Mjolnir beating Hulk and Thing in H2H, Thor being beaten on by Hulk and seemingly out for a panel or two only to come back for more, etc. And those are just his Hulk related throw downs.
I'd say Thor is more or less at an angry Savage Hulk's level in terms of physicality (not ragingly pissed off Hulk, but an angry one nonetheless) with additional powers.
Originally posted by yaadaveyaa
if this is thors strongest then he can fight all the heralds at once and win just depends on which thor
Nah, the ones with the more esoteric, and TP abilities would make that pretty much impossible for him to do. When I say esoteric, I mean low level reality warpers and such. Thor's powerful for sure, but not that powerful. TBF, all characters have some sort of Achilles heal.
Weather powers........in space? 0.o [/B]
Cosmic Weather 😛
And i guess he used thunder based attacks a plenty of times in space...
Thor killed Hulk and thing in h2h:
http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd248/gokijin/ThorHulkThing.jpg
Originally posted by eaebiakuya
Cosmic Weather 😛And i guess he used thunder based attacks a plenty of times in space...
Thor killed Hulk and thing in h2h:http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd248/gokijin/ThorHulkThing.jpg
Undone by Odin. It never happened. It's even listed as an alt reality in the Marvel Handbooks.
Reigning is an alternate reality/timeline ever since Thor went back in time, but the feat itself, a Mjolnir-ness, Odin Force-less Thor beating Thing and Hulk is canon to Thor.
Otherwise, if we discount feats from being canon based on everytime things were "set back to normal" via time travel deus ex machina , we'd be throwing out a great deal of feats.
