Thor vs. Heralds

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Reigning is an alternate reality/timeline ever since Thor went back in time, but the feat itself, a Mjolnir-ness, Odin Force-less Thor beating Thing and Hulk is canon to Thor.

Otherwise, if we discount feats from being canon based on everytime things were "set back to normal" via time travel deus ex machina , we'd be throwing out a great deal of feats.

Thor, sans Mjolnir and Odinforce, with a badly wounded arm beating both Hulk and Thing? That's so out of the norm it's ridiculous.

Originally posted by zopzop
IMHO, with PIS/CIS off, Thor would should get WRECKED by any mid/high herald worth a damn without Mjolnir, hell even many low heralds should do it.

where Thor's atmospheric powers are ineffectual : space, bottom of the ocean, etc... He's now doubly phucked.

Not sure if your serious or trolling?

Thor's weather powers work in any environment or any dimension pretty much.

Also no, he wouldn't get wrecked. He's basically Hercules except he can fall back on lightning and energy powers that reach above Top Tier in terms of raw power if worst comes to worst.

Originally posted by zopzop
Assuming it's canon, which I'm not convinced it is, since the universe it took place in is an alt reality now, it was massive PIS.

Thor, sans Mjolnir and Odinforce, with a badly wounded arm beating both Hulk and Thing? That's so out of the norm it's ridiculous.

The fight lasted for hours and ended with his arm being removed (Logan only cut it, he didn't remove it) and him missing an eye. How is Thor beating Hulk and Thing at great cost to himself is PIS?

Originally posted by zopzop

He's rockin' Mjolnir there. There's no atmosphere in space, it's a void. So unless he can summon "magical" storms without Mjolnir, he's screwed.[/B]

Lol, Thor's powers aren't really limited by atmosphere.

Mjolnir at this point conclusively focuses Thor's power. It doesn't grant his weather manipulating abilities.

Originally posted by zopzop
Undone by Odin. It never happened. It's even listed as an alt reality in the Marvel Handbooks. [/B]

So? We aren't comic book characters. It happened, stop hating.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
The fight lasted for hours and ended with his arm being removed (Logan only cut it, he didn't remove it) and him missing an eye. How is Thor beating Hulk and Thing at great cost to himself is PIS?

He'd consider Thor beating Luke Cage to be PIS.

Thor's hammer is like Dr. Donald Blake's walking stick, it's a crutch. Without it he's not nearly as effective. I wouldn't give him odds against any high-heralds, especially ones like Superman, Silver Surfer, Orion, Black Adam or the Hulk.

Thor would probably edge out Hercules. He would give Wonder Woman a good run for her money. He could possibly beat a couple of the weaker GL's but probably not the elite ones like Sinestro, Hal or Kyle.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Not sure if your serious or trolling?

Thor's weather powers work in any environment or any dimension pretty much.

Also no, he wouldn't get wrecked. He's basically Hercules except he can fall back on lightning and energy powers that reach above Top Tier in terms of raw power if worst comes to worst.

Originally posted by Silent Master
He'd consider Thor beating Luke Cage to be PIS.

I notice that you didn't say that my statement was wrong.

Originally posted by Silent Master
I notice that you didn't say that my statement was wrong.

Incorrect, you may have implied that my statement was wrong, but you still haven't actually said it.

Originally posted by zopzop
Proof of Thor doing what you are saying, ie high end weather manip sans Mjolnir?.

What do you mean high-end? An immense storm almost flooded Asgard as a child when he had a bad nightmare (One of Mjolnir's purposes in this story was to help Thor control his weather abilities), he's summoned lightning bolts and energy but that's pretty much it.

Without Mjolnir I think Thor would rarely use his weather abilities unless he has to (He doesn't often use them as it is) or the odd lightning bolt.

Then again, in the Godstorm story, it was revealed that Thor commands semi-sentient other-dimensional weather anomalies and though he can force them to his will, they obey him willingly. So take that as you will.

Originally posted by zopzop

Is Luke Cage herald level? No? Then STFU, you aren't being funny, just annoying.

The fun just doesn't stop!

😐

Silver Surfer was unable to put Durok down with his power and Durok put him down.

Yet, Thor, with no hammer, was able to defeat Durok with no hammer at all in this instance, with his God-power alone.

Any one on WW's level pushes his shit in.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Any one on WW's level pushes his shit in.

Why would anyone on WW's level want to handle Thor's feces?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Any one on WW's level pushes his shit in.

Thor even back when he had just an axe summoned lightning at Gorr the God Butcher from just a few issues ago on Thor: God of Thunder.

Really dont know why his ability to manipulate weather being contested

If he's bloodlusted then he could kill the Hulk and maybe fight some of the lanterns.

Originally posted by zopzop
Undone by Odin. It never happened. It's even listed as an alt reality in the Marvel Handbooks.

Thor did it, not Odin.

Originally posted by Dampyre
Thor's hammer is like Dr. Donald Blake's walking stick, it's a crutch. Without it he's not nearly as effective. I wouldn't give him odds against any high-heralds, especially ones like Superman, Silver Surfer, Orion, Black Adam or the Hulk.

Thor would probably edge out Hercules. He would give Wonder Woman a good run for her money. He could possibly beat a couple of the weaker GL's but probably not the elite ones like Sinestro, Hal or Kyle.

When Thor isn't holding back, he's right up there with most of the guys you mentioned. Orion and Thor are about as equal as it gets.