Ultron vs Destroyer

Started by pym-ftw5 pages

Pym and Reed have feats fighting and defeating magical enemies...

But without solid prep I can't see Ultron winning

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
How so? Him being smart is great, but unless he goes to prep away in some lab somewhere, in the midst of a fight, what does Ultron have on hand to take down the Destroyer?

Because the longer the fight goes the more it favors Ultron. He is analizing and computing methods to defeat his foes. If Ultron can survive long enough (which he can) he will figure out a way to overcome.

The destroyers beam, even when fired from a mortal host, fried Thor. Straight up killed him with a brief flash. If that Visor stays open, Ultron won't last too much longer.

Originally posted by Odekahn
Because the longer the fight goes the more it favors Ultron. He is analizing and computing methods to defeat his foes. If Ultron can survive long enough (which he can) he will figure out a way to overcome.

That's very vague.

Ultron is smart and capable, but again, in the middle of a fight against the Destroyer specifically, what does Ultron have on hand or has displayed to suggest him beating it outright?

Originally posted by Damborgson
The destroyers beam, even when fired from a mortal host, fried Thor. Straight up killed him with a brief flash. If that Visor stays open, Ultron won't last too much longer.

The destroyers attack is magic based, correct? So a feat of Ultron repelling magic might change your mind?

Originally posted by Odekahn
The destroyers attack is magic based, correct? So a feat of Ultron repelling magic might change your mind?

It better be a high end magic user. Otherwise it proves nothing.

Originally posted by Odekahn
The destroyers attack is magic based, correct? So a feat of Ultron repelling magic might change your mind?

Yes. Depends on the feat I guess. Even then, he'll have to be repelling the destroyer's mjolnir slicer beams too. The armor is freaking powerful. Ultron is too of course, I just don't think he'd win this one.

Ultron is Herald level at best, as where Destroyer ranges from Mid trans to high Cosmic depending on the host or number of souls. Destroyer will slag Ultorn with D beam.

Originally posted by the Darkone
Ultron is Herald level at best, as where Destroyer ranges from Mid trans to high Cosmic depending on the host or number of souls. Destroyer will slag Ultorn with D beam.

Ultron has easily pwned groups of heralds. I'd say both are trans, and there's not a host so that's not in the equation.

I have visions of Adamantium getting damaged here. I just cant come up with anyway for Ultron to win (unless we want to go for the cheap way out of claiming the host). If the Destroyer were a robot, then it would be different, but he's nothing but armour. When I think about this match, I have the Destroyer so much higher then Ultron that i'm struggling here.

Hey, I could be wrong and would easily accept it if I am.

Destroyer wins imo. He can actually damage Ultron severely but I don't believe Ultron has anything in his arsenal that can beat the Destroyer.

Originally posted by the Darkone
Ultron is Herald level at best, as where Destroyer ranges from Mid trans to high Cosmic depending on the host or number of souls. Destroyer will slag Ultorn with D beam.

The teams of heralds Ultron has beaten would say differently...

But the armor is a low skyfather in its own right....

IIRC the Destroyer's visor beam can actually ignore the first law of thermodynamics and completely destroy matter and energy from existence. I don't think adamantium can stand up to that.

After seeing what guys on Destroyer's level can do to America's shield, I have no doubt that the Destroyer would crush Ultron. Odin's constructions are just greater than mans.

Originally posted by Stoic
After seeing what guys on Destroyer's level can do to America's shield, I have no doubt that the Destroyer would crush Ultron. Odin's constructions are just greater than mans.

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Originally posted by Odekahn
Ultron has easily pwned groups of heralds. I'd say both are trans, and there's not a host so that's not in the equation.

False, Destroyer is a high trans to cosmic level the other Ultron is a high herald low trans still way below than Destroyer, the Destroyer with out a host still slag Ultron, Wonder Man crushed Ultron head and Destroyer is way stronger than Wonder Man any herald.

Destroyer will slag ultron it's that simple!

Originally posted by pym-ftw
The teams of heralds Ultron has beaten would say differently...

But the armor is a low skyfather in its own right....

Count Nefaria has done the same thing as Ultron, now are we going to say Count Nefaria can beat Destroyer. The Ultron to date was back in Annihilation Conquest and that Ultron was low trans, still not in the same league as Destroyer.

Depends on whether the Destroyer's disintegration beam can effect adamantium. If yes, Destroyer. If no, stalemate.

Originally posted by Odekahn
Ultron has easily pwned groups of heralds. I'd say both are trans, and there's not a host so that's not in the equation.

What? Doesn't there have to be a host in the armor for it to work? Unless you're allowing Ultron to just beat on a lifeless trinket here?
Can you explain this to me?

Ultron isn't beating the Destroyer guys. They are two different calibers of constructs. One was built to defend against high cosmic threats the other... well he's just not in the same league.

Originally posted by Stoic
What? Doesn't there have to be a host in the armor for it to work? Unless you're allowing Ultron to just beat on a lifeless trinket here?
Can you explain this to me?

No, the armor can fight by itself.