Originally posted by comic_book_fan
how telepathy isn't going to work Apocalypse is stronger more durable better molecular control better energy powers and way smarter and a better fighter J'onn's only advantage is speed and that's not going to save him.
I am in agreement here. Apoc needs more book time though, because he's become quite obscure over the past few years. This is likely the reason that he's so underwhelming on this board. I'd place Apoc on the same level as Atrocitus tbh. Both are above J'onn at their best.
Originally posted by Stoic
I am in agreement here. Apoc needs more book time though, because he's become quite obscure over the past few years. This is likely the reason that he's so underwhelming on this board. I'd place Apoc on the same level as Atrocitus tbh. Both are above J'onn at their best.
No question. Poccy is a nightmare match up that J can't win. His strengths are Poccy's strengths, only Poccy's are stronger. The super speed thing is not a factor and just a carry over from D.C. universe. It would never be a determining factor, so I don't know why it keeps being mentioned.
Originally posted by Cogito
No. You've either got an over-exaggerated view of Apocalypse or you're low balling J'onn.
Originally posted by comic_book_fan
no I am not both thor and hulk are stronger than j'onn and Apocalypse has over powered both of them.
professor x can match manhunter in telepathy and he can't even begin to get through Apocalypse's defenses durability Apocalypse can take a full powered shot from blackbolt Cyclops and more and not flinch.
and take an angry thor hitting him in the chest with his hammer and barely flinch Apocalypse is a higher tier than manhunter.
Dude, it was Cyclops who killed Apocalypse in that comic... and Blackbolt couldn't have been going all out--he never does--because it would have killed everyone on his team.
Apocalypse showed up in a suped-up version of his armor, sucker punched a green Thor who was too drunk to think to attack Apocalypse's exposed head rather than the armor itself. Once Thor realized how to bypass the armor's Celestial defenses, he made short work of Apocalypse, who couldn't even muster the balls to face Wolverine's human ancestor directly, and opted to burn down all of London instead.
Originally posted by comic_book_fan
no I am not both thor and hulk are stronger than j'onn and Apocalypse has over powered both of them.
professor x can match manhunter in telepathy and he can't even begin to get through Apocalypse's defenses durability Apocalypse can take a full powered shot from blackbolt Cyclops and more and not flinch.
and take an angry thor hitting him in the chest with his hammer and barely flinch Apocalypse is a higher tier than manhunter.
Thank you.
Originally posted by Eternal Idol
Dude, it was Cyclops who killed Apocalypse in that comic... and Blackbolt couldn't have been going all out--he never does--because it would have killed everyone on his team.Apocalypse showed up in a suped-up version of his armor, sucker punched a green Thor who was too drunk to think to attack Apocalypse's exposed head rather than the armor itself. Once Thor realized how to bypass the armor's Celestial defenses, he made short work of Apocalypse, who couldn't even muster the balls to face Wolverine's human ancestor directly, and opted to burn down all of London instead.
Poccy > MM, Thor > MM