Even link didn't keep his body intact when he entered the twilight, and he was chosen by the gods to handle it. Hylians in General are much smaller in TP than they are in OoT, ganon is much smaller than his OoT counterpart. One ganondorf was using and practicing with the triforce for seven years, the other was working behind the scenes and lending out his power. The two are not equal anyway you spin it.
What is pne physical strength feat from the child timeline?
Originally posted by NotAllThatEvilYes, Link did, he just turned into a wolf, and it wasn't because he was chosen by the gods 'to handle it' it was because he was chosen by the gods, period. Like Ganondorf. You know, having a piece of the triforce.
Even link didn't keep his body intact when he entered the twilight, and he was chosen by the gods to handle it. Hylians in General are much smaller in TP than they are in OoT, ganon is much smaller than his OoT counterpart. One ganondorf was using and practicing with the triforce for seven years, the other was working behind the scenes and lending out his power. The two are not equal anyway you spin it.What is pne physical strength feat from the child timeline?
Ganon, however, gained complete control of the Twilight Realm, using his power to merge it with Hyrule, you think he could do that, but not talk it into letting him have a physical body? 😛 Besides which point his strength is innate and magically endowed, he doesn't need to spend eternity doing push ups, just unlocking the power of the triforce piece.
Ganondorf in TP is from the OoT era, he is not smaller than OoT Ganon, he is OoT Ganon.
Ganondorf did not 'lend out' his power, he, centuries later, gave a small fraction of his power to one guy.
7 years < centuries.
Any way you spin it, if they are different at all, TP Link is the greater of the two due to having longer to unlock the power of his piece of the triforce. Any difference at all is purely speculative on your part, and not supported by what occurs in game.
IE, Ganon overpowered OoT Link, TP Link matched Ganon twice. This is not hard to figure out.
So link lost his hylian body. Ganondorf wasn't chosen, he got his piece thanks to the hero of time bringing his piece back from the future causing the triforce in that timeline to go to zelda and ganondorf.
Ganondorf was the same size as impa at the beginning of OoT, but then got much taller and a mullet when he got the triforce. TP g stayed roughly the same size when he got his.
He is the same man who but spiders in a tree and lizards is a cave, not the same man who could freeze lakes, revive dragons, and levitate castles.
Originally posted by NotAllThatEvilHey, look, semantics. Ganondorf had the ToP, IE, he was not reduced to a soul.
So link lost his hylian body. Ganondorf wasn't chosen, he got his piece thanks to the hero of time bringing his piece back from the future causing the triforce in that timeline to go to zelda and ganondorf.Ganondorf was the same size as impa at the beginning of OoT, but then got much taller and a mullet when he got the triforce. TP g stayed roughly the same size when he got his.
He is the same man who but spiders in a tree and lizards is a cave, not the same man who could freeze lakes, revive dragons, and levitate castles.
He later demonstrated complete control of the Twilight Realm.
Ganondorf's human form never changed size in OoT, lol.
Odd you should mention this, since when Ganondorf comes back he goes about doing the exact same shit he did in OoT, because they're the same person.
He flash froze Zora's domain and everything around it, he revived a dragon in the sky, and he took Hyrule Castle. Had Link stopped for a nap it probably would have ended up floating over a lake of lava again the next afternoon.
You've not proven Ganondorf in TP is any different than Ganondorf in OoT, and you've certainly not proven that he's any weaker. IF anything he'd be more powerful, in fact. But you see, there's not enough evidence to support that, it would be speculation, so I will not actually claim it.
Regardless, we've effectively derailed this discussion. End point: Link is too far removed from Batman's physical capabilities to deal with, without significant prep or aid. Link could factually collapse the temple on Batman, or just crush him into a ball, while Batman has no recourse. Furthermore, Link's wolf form negates any stealth Batman might attempt, and Batman begins the fight essentially cornered.
Originally posted by NotAllThatEvilI don't need to, they're the same person, why bother showcasing the lesser things he does with clear ease, like smashing through pillars like they aren't there?
I asked one question three times now. Name ONE physical feat from the child timeline. He's not the same person, he went through a completely different chain of events. One feat.
You've not proven Ganondorf in TP is any different than Ganondorf in OoT, and you've certainly not proven that he's any weaker. IF anything he'd be more powerful, in fact. But you see, there's not enough evidence to support that, it would be speculation, so I will not actually claim it.Regardless, we've effectively derailed this discussion. End point: Link is too far removed from Batman's physical capabilities to deal with, without significant prep or aid. Link could factually collapse the temple on Batman, or just crush him into a ball, while Batman has no recourse. Furthermore, Link's wolf form negates any stealth Batman might attempt, and Batman begins the fight essentially cornered.
Also on topic, this:
Originally posted by NemeBro
Link wins.Anyone who believes otherwise is a ****ing idiot, especially Nephthys.
Originally posted by NotAllThatEvilClashing with a superhuman shouldn't count as a superhuman feat? haermm Righto, I'll get right to discounting everytime Superman punches out a rival comicbook brick. 🙄
Except they're not the same person. They were but now they're not. All I'm saying is that if he doesn't have any outrageous physical feats, then his and link's little sword clash shouldn't be counted as a superhuman feat for link.
Originally posted by NotAllThatEvilYes, OoT Link, as well actually, since the two clashed already.
... we don't know how strong ganondorf is, just that he's close to link. We can use link's feats to find out how strong ganondorf is, but not the other way around.
1. Ganondorf.
2. Triforce of power.
3. Seven years.
1. Ganondorf.
2. Triforce of power.
3. Centuries.
Go ahead and tell me Ganondorf got weaker after a couple hundred years spent jacking off with the Triforce of Power. I have a whole pile of laughter .gifs lined up.
Also, Link knocks hundreds of tons of ice around in the Blizzetta fight, so even discounting that (two times, consistency, boyo) he clashed with Ganondorf and won, he can still bring down that temple on Batman's head, and Batman has no recourse. Thing is, we're not going to discount a valid feat just because you don't like it.
So link is physically stronger than ganondorf.
I might just blow your mind with this, but try to keep up. In OoT ganon was stronger than ganondorf, in TP it was the otherway around. Obviously something is different here. We can't use OoT feats post seven years of sleep. He had centuries with the triforce, but link turned into a wolf and zelda got a hoodie so we don't know how centuries in twilight effected him.
Originally posted by NotAllThatEvilI'm going to blow your mind with this, but unlike Ganon, Link is different people with varying capability.
So link is physically stronger than ganondorf.I might just blow your mind with this, but try to keep up. In OoT ganon was stronger than ganondorf, in TP it was the otherway around. Obviously something is different here. We can't use OoT feats post seven years of sleep. He had centuries with the triforce, but link turned into a wolf and zelda got a hoodie so we don't know how centuries in twilight effected him.
I also am not claiming TP Link is stronger than Ganon, only comparable. Ganondorf was weakened during the final fight with the sword lock due to taking three seperate beatings already.
Originally posted by NotAllThatEvilHey, Link is a determinator, HOWEVER:
So ganondorf is noticeably weaker by the clash but link is completely unphased by fighting zant, going through the castle, dealing with the boblins, and fighting the different stages of ganondorf and zelda?
Since we have no cutscenes of what happened exactly during those fights we cannot say whether Link took damage or not. The mooks are obviously a nonfactor, but Link did win all four stages of the Ganondorf fight as we see it, so Ganondorf would likely be feeling the attrition more than Link would.
I'm not arguing either were at complete awesomesauce capacity, all I'm saying is that by the end the Ganondorf Link overpowered was not in peak condition, so to say conclusively Link is physically stronger than Ganondorf isn't something we can prove. What Link did show, that is impressive in itself, is that he is a peer to Ganondorf in physical strength.