Originally posted by NotAllThatEvilI don't see how the youngest incarnation of Ganondorf we fight showing us just how strong he is leaves much mystery as to Ganondorf's lower end strength. We don't know the top end of any Link so far or Ganondorf himself, but the best feats available are enough to work with. shrug I'm not going to aim higher than what I have, but I'm not going to ignore what I have either.
Without giving any info on exactly how strong ganondorf is.
Besides OoT feats, he is a mystery in terms of upper body feats.
The only thing we've ever seen Ganondorf struggle with is Link. We've seen him smash floors and pillars and debris without even meaning to, or caring at all that it's in his way, but that doesn't tell us much. What we do know is that Ganondorf's youngest incarnation could match and exceed OoT Link's strength, and that TP Link is a peer to that.
TP Link being a peer to Ganondorf lets him topple the eponymous Temple of Doom on top of Batman, and Batman can't do anything about it. Link's lesser feats actually allow this as well, knocking around Blizzeta is comfortably enough. Link could seriously win this by pulling out the ball and chain, closing his eyes, and just going ham.
Originally posted by NotAllThatEvilExcept that Batman has no way to knock off any hearts. Explain to me how he hurts Link.
We don't know if TP=OoT ganondorf. Yes link is super human because of the yeti fight, and will beat the bat, but batman could probably knock off a couple ofhearts.
And we do know that OoT = TP Ganondorf, because they're the same guy, with the same power source, if anything Ganondorf became more powerful by TP, so nothing about that discredits the strength feat.
No. It split in the child because link earned it in the adult timeline and brought it back. It shatters into ity bity pieces in th AT and went to it's respective owners in the CT. Ganondorf neve went to the sacred real, never touched the entire thing, and never tried to make a wish.
Bombs in zelda have always been used to stop gorons. Gorons are strong enough to crush boulders. They won't do as mutch damage to link, but they willpprobably knock him around a bit.
Originally posted by NotAllThatEvilGanondorf in the original timeline touched it and it split. This happened simultaneously with his execution in the alternate timeline. Ganondorf ended up with it in both timelines.
No. It split in the child because link earned it in the adult timeline and brought it back. It shatters into ity bity pieces in th AT and went to it's respective owners in the CT. Ganondorf neve went to the sacred real, never touched the entire thing, and never tried to make a wish.Bombs in zelda have always been used to stop gorons. Gorons are strong enough to crush boulders. They won't do as mutch damage to link, but they willpprobably knock him around a bit.
We're off topic again, though. Ganondorf has the ToP, and is Ganondorf. He is not less powerful than Ganondorf with the ToP who is also Ganondorf, and you didn't address points 1 through 4.
Edit: you edited. Zelda bombs are pretty hardcore, but I'm not seeing a correlation, or how knocking Link back, assuming Batman lives that long, without damaging Link, knocks off some hearts.
Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
1. He carries them for a reason. When he meets a superhuman he tosses them.
2. I assum the arang bart of batarang ment he could throw them AROUND the sheild.
3. Bombs stom gorons. Gorons can stop link. Bomb stop link.
4. If it works, its not flailing.
Originally posted by NotAllThatEvilReaction time wise he handles combat teleportation, chops arrows out of the air, and out swordfights Ganondorf, whose combat speed will be argued, but is plenty enough to let Link react to a batarang. His lowest estimates point to super sonic. (Killing the sage in TP, seconds after receiving the ToP) He literally cannot be hit by Link's supersonic/hypersonic arrows in the final fight, so yeah, Link is in his ballpark combatspeed wise and reaction time wise.
Oh yes I forgot link was faster than a light arrow... wait a minute. Besides swinging his sword, what is the fastest speed feat for link.
Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
Did you really just say hypersonic arrows. Really? You do realize that the arrows velocity is determined by the elasticity of the wood and not the strength of the archer, right?
Except it's the draw strength that determines that. This is why Longbowmen in the 12th century had deformed arms from the massive pulls of their bows.
We already discussed the merits of Link's bow. Did you forget, or something?
Steel could not do what Link's bow does, a steel I beam would be insufficient. This is not a normal bow. haermm I understand perfectly how a bow works, but Link's bow is not a normal bow, and any arrow coming from that thing is moving a minimum of 500 m/s, and that's undershooting it.
Originally posted by NotAllThatEvilHey look, nitpicking.
Then where's the sonic boom?
Sonicbooms are created by the advancing shockwave caused by the air that would conduct the sound infront of the object being forced to move faster than soundwaves themselves, causing them to collapse together, basically. If you're behind the source, you're not going to experience it. We play as Link. Wat nao?
Or more likely, the simpler answer is that in real life arrows don't make sonic booms, and the game was put together by hundreds of separate people with little to no communication, and the sound effect guy did the job of making the bow sound like a bow.
Both explanations work, as both cover why an arrow in a videogame can be plainly supersonic and not force the player to listen to an annoying cracking noise.