Originally posted by KingD19
The thing people seem to be forgetting is that the Mk 42 armor was one of the many made by Tony just to make it. It was part of his insomnia and nearly none of them were as well put together as his older models. It's why War Machine fared so much better. Didn't Jarvis even say 42 was barely combat ready?
Regardless, it was Tony's armor of choice.
"At last, the prodigal son returns"
His best armor was the Mark VIII he dawned at the end of Avengers.
Originally posted by KingD19I felt how the armor handled Extremis threats was all over the park.
I never said it wasn't. I was just pointing out how easily it was taken down in comparison to War Machine against another Extremis soldier because War Machine was well crafted. While the other armors were hastily and sloppily put together in comparison.
The auto armors were taking one 2-3 Extremis soldiers at a time and judging by the amount of Armor-Self Destruct explosions at the end they fared fairly well. In fact the only armors I recall getting destroyed in that fight were the ones that Killain and Pepper destroyed.
It was also weird that Killian could survive the Mark 42 self destruct but a random IM missile mixed with repulsor blast was enough to destroy him.
Thor still wins. Thor could crush the armor with his bare hands. He also was way more durable than any of the armors he also has more firepower than any of the IM armors and those armors still had enough firepower to take down Extremis enhanced humans.
IM is reliant on his armor. So Killian damaging his armor makes him vulnerable. Thor on the other hand has no vulnerabilities that Killian can take advantage of. If his heat-hands don't damage Thor (and I since Thor tanked the bifrost explosion I seriously don't think Killians heat can damage Thor) then he really doesn't have anything to take out Thor with.
He can hurt Thor, but I doubt he has anything in his arsenal that can take Thor out.
Originally posted by Insomniatric
Killian could hardly handle regular old Tony Stark. Thor went toe-to-toe with the Hulk (albeit a freshly transformed, relatively calm Hulk).If a good swing of Thor's hammer knocked the Hulk back, it would flatten Killian.
Actually, the Hulk that Thor fought is the one who was mentally influenced by Loki to the point that he couldn't control his transformation and attacked allies. he was in no way "relatively calm".
An example of a relatively calm Hulk would be the one that punched the giant alien a few seconds after choosing to transform.
Originally posted by KingD19
I wouldn't call that relatively calm. As he pointed out he was always angry, and if he'd been "relatively calm" and at that level when he fought Thor, it wouldn't have been a fight. Thor would have been punched clean out of the Hellicarrier.
He was angrier during the Thor fight, hence not being able to control the transformation and attacking allies.
Originally posted by Insomniatric
That's true, but he seemed to be much more powerful in the New York scene. He sent Thor flying with a weak punch that had almost no effort behind it.
Using that logic, Thor magically got more durable during that fight, seeing as that punch didn't seem to hurt him, whereas a punch during their earlier fight caused him to bleed a little.
Originally posted by Silent Master
Using that logic, Thor magically got more durable during that fight, seeing as that punch didn't seem to hurt him, whereas a punch during their earlier fight caused him to bleed a little.
Hulk put almost no effort behind it and ragdolled Thor.
How would Thor have handled getting hit like this?
Hulk was certainly weaker on the helicarrier than he was in New York. On the ship, shots from a chopper (iirc) were causing him to flinch and shield himself, while Loki's army couldn't put a scratch on him, even with the superior firepower that they had.
Originally posted by Silent Master
Seeing as Thor took punches from an angrier Hulk, I'd say that he'd handle it fine....unless you're going to try and argue that getting angrier makes the Hulk weaker.
No, I'm just saying that the Hulk was more powerful when Banner willingly transformed. I'm sure the film makers did that intentionally, to make him more badass. No point in making him weaker as the movie progresses, especially at the climactic end-battle.
That little punch sent Thor reeling. If that little effort from the Hulk was able to knock him off of his feet, how would he handle a real punch? As KingD19 said, a leviathan level punch (that had Hulk's weight behind it) would have knocked him out of the helicarrier.
Not trying to start a serious argument over this btw, just saying.