Originally posted by xJLxKing
i honestly thought it was 100x. if Thor can fight intelligently while he is in wm state, he wins easily
I doubt it effects his ability to fight coherently.
And given that in OWAW states Superman can destroy a moon effortlessly whereas normally he's afraid to go fast enough to do so without getting ko'd, I think he at least stands a fair chance power wise.
But then when you consider his sped up mental processes and his super-deductive combat capabilities shown against the IP Probe, he seems even more lethal just from his mental state.
Originally posted by DamborgsonPretty sure Thor was in his 'berserker rage' mindset when he battled Maestro in Hulk #440.
He's supposed to have a 10X increase to his strength. Though he's never actually been shown in comics.
That said, I'm definitely siding with Supes here. Not only was Thor unable to gain any sort of advantage over Maestro(berserker rage be damned), but he also turned into a simple brute/brick who used his mallet as little more than an archaic striking tool-- he utilized no esoteric abilities whatsoever.
Originally posted by Galan007
Pretty sure Thor was in his 'berserker rage' mindset when he battled Maestro in Hulk #440.That said, I'm definitely siding with Supes here. Not only was Thor unable to gain any sort of advantage over Maestro(berserker rage be damned), but he also turned into a simple brute/brick who used his mallet as little more than an archaic striking tool-- he utilized no esoteric abilities whatsoever.
If Thor goes in the true, legitimate, warrior madness he can't leave it. During Blood and Thunder, Odin thought he was going to have to kill Thor because even he wouldn't be able to snap Thor out of it.
Originally posted by DamborgsonThen that means the "berserker rage increases my power tenfold" scan you posted above must be hyperbole, as Thor was definitely in the aforementioned mindset during his battle with Maestro.
Yes. That doesn't come with a 10X amp fortunately. He was just pissed and homicidal.
Originally posted by Galan007
Then that means the "berserker rage increases my power tenfold" scan you posted above must be hyperbole, as Thor was definitely in the aforementioned mindset during his battle with Maestro.
Or it wasn't true Warrior Madness. Like I said, if he snapped out of it, he was just angry. Which while I'm sure doesn't hurt his strength, doesn't give him a 10X amp either.
Originally posted by Galan007
He never did snap out of it, though. Heck, even at the very end of the battle(after Maestro was nuked) Thor was stated to be at the peak of his rage:
"Atomic fires fuel his already berserker fury."Just saying...
He didn't snap out of it during the fight, he did calm down after all was said and done though. Which is impossible in Warriors Madness. According to Odin anyway. The whole thing is ambiguous since I'm not unaware of what the intention of the Thor vs Maestro fight probably was.
Originally posted by carver9
Wasn't it also stated that he was in WM mode when he fought that Hulk? Stated on panel.
That's irrelevant though if none of the symptoms are there.
What was you expecting Thor to do with the strength increase from the Warrior madness, bench mountains? I don't even think that showing should be used against Thor since Hulk was also in a berserk state (which increase his strength as well). On panel, it was clearly depicted that he was in WM mode but Hulk was also furious which could be the reason he was still able to match and exceed Thor. Good showing for both and again, that doesn't hold precedence over this fight.