Thor Vs Superman(With a twist)

Originally posted by abhilegend
Just write Thor lifting a city, smashing someone with mjolnir and doing something impressive i.e. not being oneshotted and the Thor fans would be happy.

No, no. This is how.

Narrator: ..... ... ...... LIKE A WARRIOR BORN! ... .......
Thor fan: Whoa! Cool!

Narrator: ...... SON OF ODIN .... ....... GODLY... ....
Thor fan: Holy crap! This is awesome!

Narrator: ..... MYSTIC MALLET.. ... .... .... ASGARDIAN ....
Thor fan: OMG, this is the greatest!
Thor fan: *begins masturbating*

Originally posted by psycho gundam
that joke isn't even funny anymore

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Originally posted by -Pr-
I think Thor stories are harder to write simply because Thor tends to work better (imo) when you can heavily reference the mythology and the Asgardian aspects of the character. For instance, while stopping bank robberies and catching a falling Lois is Superman's bread and butter, Thor would almost seem out of place doing it, I think.

A good Thor writer has to have a good grasp of the mythology, whereas a good writer just has to be a good writer to write a decent Superman story, imo.

They are. Thor can work in the classical superhero genre, a more mythological/fantasy genre, science fiction/cosmic stuff, and everything in between, but you have to be able to portray it in a way that stays true to the character without it feeling forced. I think once the initial tone is set, you can pretty much go from there with Thor. You also have to reconcile the conflicting Asgardian origins/mythos (or pull a Fraction/Gillen and say that they all count) and choose whether or not you're portraying Thor as a god among men or are as man fighting amongst gods. Personally, I always liked the Donald Blake persona, but others feel it's long since served its purpose.

But in a lot of cases, the best Thor stories aren't even the ones with the best feats contrary to what some people may mistakenly think.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
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They are. Thor can work in the classical superhero genre, a more mythological/fantasy genre, science fiction/cosmic stuff, and everything in between, but you have to be able to portray it in a way that stays true to the character without it feeling forced. I think once the initial tone is set, you can pretty much go from there with Thor. You also have to reconcile the conflicting Asgardian origins/mythos (or pull a Fraction/Gillen and say that they all count) and choose whether or not you're portraying Thor as a god among men or are as man fighting amongst gods. Personally, I always liked the Donald Blake persona, but others feel it's long since served its purpose.

But in a lot of cases, the best Thor stories aren't even the ones with the best feats contrary to what some people may mistakenly think.

I see what you mean.

Yeah, tbh I always liked the Donald Blake aspect of the character. I don't know why, but I always tended to prefer Thor stories when he had the Blake thing going on.

Originally posted by -Pr-
....For instance, while stopping bank robberies and catching a falling Lois is Superman's bread and butter...

But then they would complain that Superman shouldn't be that fast... or he should have moved faster... or he would have broken Lois's back moving at that speed... or he should have rescued Lois and rescued stopped the crime first... or he should have rescued Lois first... or why did the robbery take place under considering his super senses... or whatever...

Originally posted by Spire
But then they would complain that Superman shouldn't be that fast... or he should have moved faster... or he would have broken Lois's back moving at that speed... or he should have rescued Lois and rescued stopped the crime first... or he should have rescued Lois first... or why did the robbery take place under considering his super senses... or whatever...

Who the hell would complain about that?

Originally posted by -Pr-
I see what you mean.

Yeah, tbh I always liked the Donald Blake aspect of the character. I don't know why, but I always tended to prefer Thor stories when he had the Blake thing going on.

JMS was able to write Blake and Thor as two separate but still intriguing entities that had their own distinct plot points in addition to their conjoined one. Honestly, I felt JMS had one of the best Thor runs of all time because of that reason.

Thor fans.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
JMS was able to write Blake and Thor as two separate but still intriguing entities that had their own distinct plot points in addition to their conjoined one. Honestly, I felt JMS had one of the best Thor runs of all time because of that reason.

JMS' run on Thor is one of maybe 3-4 Thor solo runs I've read, and I have to admit I really liked it. That was part of the reason I was so excited when he jumped ship to go write Superman.

Except, yeah...

Originally posted by Spire
Thor fans.

I'm a Thor fan and I wouldn't complain about stupid shit like that.

Originally posted by Spire
Thor fans.

😂

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
I'm a Thor fan and I wouldn't complain about stupid shit like that.

Thought my sarcasm was pretty obvious.

Oh well.

Originally posted by -Pr-
I think Thor stories are harder to write simply because Thor tends to work better (imo) when you can heavily reference the mythology and the Asgardian aspects of the character. For instance, while stopping bank robberies and catching a falling Lois is Superman's bread and butter, Thor would almost seem out of place doing it, I think.

A good Thor writer has to have a good grasp of the mythology, whereas a good writer just has to be a good writer to write a decent Superman story, imo.

To be honest, If I was a Thor writer, I'd probably make Thor face a villain from a not so well known Pantheon of Gods.Then have Thor get his "behind" kicked by said villain in a bad ass kinda way 😄 Then in round 2, I'd have Thor figure out how to beat said villain 😎

Originally posted by Igniz
To be honest, If I was a Thor writer, I'd probably make Thor face a villain from a not so well known Pantheon of Gods.Then have Thor get his "behind" kicked by said villain in a bad ass kinda way 😄 Then in round 2, I'd have Thor figure out how to beat said villain 😎

If I wrote Thor, the only time he'd been on Earth is for the romance part of the story with Jane Foster.

Everything else would either be in space, or another realm.

If it was the Avengers, then obviously he'd be on Earth.

Originally posted by Spire
Thought my sarcasm was pretty obvious.

Oh well.

Originally posted by Spire
Thought my sarcasm was pretty obvious.

Oh well.

Didn't come off as sarcasm to me, but okay. 👆

good job, jake. don't let him pass off his emotional frailties onto you 👆

also, retaliate

Originally posted by Spire
No, no. This is how.

Narrator: ..... ... ...... LIKE A WARRIOR BORN! ... .......
Thor fan: Whoa! Cool!

Narrator: ...... SON OF ODIN .... ....... GODLY... ....
Thor fan: Holy crap! This is awesome!

Narrator: ..... MYSTIC MALLET.. ... .... .... ASGARDIAN ....
Thor fan: OMG, this is the greatest!
Thor fan: *begins masturbating*

Originally posted by -Pr-
If I wrote Thor, the only time he'd been on Earth is for the romance part of the story with Jane Foster.

Everything else would either be in space, or another realm.

If it was the Avengers, then obviously he'd be on Earth.

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That was in my mind to be honest.

As for Superman.I'd introduce more cosmic villains that would kick his behind as well.Then I'll have him win in a plot device kinda way.

lol why

Originally posted by -Pr-
I think Thor stories are harder to write simply because Thor tends to work better (imo) when you can heavily reference the mythology and the Asgardian aspects of the character. For instance, while stopping bank robberies and catching a falling Lois is Superman's bread and butter, Thor would almost seem out of place doing it, I think.

A good Thor writer has to have a good grasp of the mythology, whereas a good writer just has to be a good writer to write a decent Superman story, imo.

I agree a strong grasp of mythology is pretty important, but look at Simonson: He turned made a story about Thor and frogs seem epic. Simonson's run probably would have been as much of a success as it was, even if his mythology was entirely inaccurate, because of his strong characterization...

Seems to me, a lot of writers simply don't know how to make Thor more than a one dimensional blowhard with a big hammer who loves to show off. Orion suffered from the same problem in DC.