Voldemort vs. Sauron

Started by quanchi11230 pages

Originally posted by Robtard
Incorrect again.

Sauron wasn't killed in that scene. He lost his physical form cos the One Ring was removed from his body by being physically cut [fingers] off. AK isn't anything like Narsil cutting off fingers, how do you not know this?

How do you still not know the basics of LoTR, nutswinger?

Saying incorrect again isn't a rebuttal.

Yes, he was killed and needed to recover his strength to return to his body. He had a chance to return to his body as long as the ring was in existence. It's just easier to kill him by removing a finger.

I do know the basics.

Sauron was without body meaning he died. He was stuck as a spirit with the ability to come back with his own Horcrux. Sauron can still die. Again.

🙂

Originally posted by quanchi112
Saying incorrect again isn't a rebuttal.

Yes, he was killed and needed to recover his strength to return to his body. He had a chance to return to his body as long as the ring was in existence. It's just easier to kill him by removing a finger.

I do know the basics.

Sauron was without body meaning he died. He was stuck as a spirit with the ability to come back with his own Horcrux. Sauron can still die. Again.

🙂

Saying "incorrect" and stating why the other person is incorrect, is in fact a rebuttal. /duh

Still incorrect. Sauron wasn't killed in that scene, you repeating this makes you look like a dullard. You seem to not understand what "killed" means/implies.

Incorrect again. Removing Suaron's ring doesn't kill him. See below for correctness.

Sauron was killed when the One Ring fell into Mount Doom and melted in RoTK 🙂

Thinking Sauron was killed in the being of Fellowship is not knowing the basics. Pay attention and learn, guy. I will teach you.

Originally posted by Robtard
Saying "incorrect" and stating why the other person is incorrect, is in fact a rebuttal. /duh

Still incorrect. Sauron wasn't killed in that scene, you repeating this makes you look like a dullard. You seem to not understand what "killed" means/implies.

Incorrect again. Removing Suaron's ring doesn't kill him. See below for correctness.

Sauron was killed when the One Ring fell into Mount Doom and melted in RoTK 🙂

Thinking Sauron was killed in the being of Fellowship is not knowing the basics. Pay attention and learn, guy. I will teach you.

He's been killed as in lost his body in the same manner.

Losing your body and being stuck in spirit form is being killed, genius. He had a way to return which was taken from him when the ring went bye byes.

Cutting it off does.

He was killed. If you die and come back you still died. 😂

Originally posted by quanchi112
He's been killed as in lost his body in the same manner.

Losing your body and being stuck in spirit form is being killed, genius. He had a way to return which was taken from him when the ring went bye byes.

Cutting it off does.

He was killed. If you die and come back you still died. 😂

So you're making up what "being killed" means, even though we actually witness Sauron being killed and it wasn't at the beginning of Fellowship, but at the end on RotK.

Stop making up stuff and go with the films 🙂 Film facts > Your fantasies

Originally posted by Robtard
So you're making up what "being killed" means, even though we actually witness Sauron being killed and it wasn't at the beginning of Fellowship, but at the end on RotK.

Stop making up stuff and go with the films 🙂 Film facts > Your fantasies

He was killed in fotr but his link wasn't severed to come back until the ring was destroyed.

You can't have it both ways.

Film facts support me. If you linger on as a spirit and can't come back then you're dead with the chance to come back.

Film facts for Voldemort's win.

Sauron's body died in fotr. Sauron himself, as he is a spirit, did not die.

Originally posted by Firefly218
Sauron's body died in fotr. Sauron himself, as he is a spirit, did not die.
Robtard doesn't grasp the obvious and isn't taken seriously in debating. Ever. Fun to play with my food.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He was killed in fotr but his link wasn't severed to come back until the ring was destroyed.

You can't have it both ways.

Film facts support me. If you linger on as a spirit and can't come back then you're dead with the chance to come back.

Film facts for Voldemort's win.

Incorrect still, he wasn't "killed" in Fellowship, repeating this lie is just that.

I'm having my way with you, again 🙂

Something else you made up to support your nonsense. Stop making stuff up.

Here's some facts you should take in instead of continuing to act like a child: Sauron's body was destroyed in the beginning of Fellowship; he wasn't actually killed until the end of RoTK.

We even see him alive and about sans a body in Desolation of Smaug.

Originally posted by Firefly218
Sauron's body died in fotr. Sauron himself, as he is a spirit, did not die.

Exactly 👆

Suaron can exist sans a body and did not actually die until RoTK.

Originally posted by Robtard
Exactly 👆

Suaron can exist sans a body and did not actually die until RoTK.

Voldemort can also exist sans a body and can't die until the Horcruxes are destroyed. Funny thing is Voldemort is harder to kill than Sauron since he has more.

Ak kills him. 😂

Originally posted by Robtard
Incorrect still, he wasn't "killed" in Fellowship, repeating this lie is just that.

I'm having my way with you, again 🙂

Something else you made up to support your nonsense. Stop making stuff up.

Here's some facts you should take in instead of continuing to act like a child: Sauron's body was destroyed in the beginning of Fellowship; he wasn't actually killed until the end of RoTK.

We even see him alive and about sans a body in Desolation of Smaug.

He died. His spirit had the chance to come back due to the Ring.

No, you aren't.

What did I make up ?

Sauron's body died his spirit lingered with the ability to return until the Ring is destroyed.

His spirit still existed and regained much of its potency but he didn't have a body and can't freely move around.

Destroy the body and its a win. It's be like me saying you can't beat Voldemort unless you destroy all the Horcruxes. You're a clown.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He died. His spirit had the chance to come back due to the Ring.

No, you aren't.

What did I make up ?

Sauron's body died his spirit lingered with the ability to return until the Ring is destroyed.

His spirit still existed and regained much of its potency but he didn't have a body and can't freely move around.

Destroy the body and its a win. It's be like me saying you can't beat Voldemort unless you destroy all the Horcruxes. You're a clown.

Oh my, still acting like a child.

Anyhow, when you start strawmanning; that's when I know that you know you're wrong. Never said Voldemort can't win here if he destroys Sauron's body, just that your 'Sauron was killed in Fellowwship' claim is incorrect and it's been shown why. Suaron was killed at the end of RotK. /Endostory.

You angry-baby derailment tactics aside, Sauron wins here due to not destroying Sauron's physical form but getting his head crushed in 🙂

Originally posted by Robtard
Oh my, still acting like a child.

Anyhow, when you start strawmanning; that's when I know that you know you're wrong. Never said Voldemort can't win here if he destroys Sauron's body, just that your 'Sauron was killed in Fellowwship' claim is incorrect and it's been shown why. Suaron was killed at the end of RotK. /Endostory.

You angry-baby derailment tactics aside, Sauron wins here due to not destroying Sauron's physical form but getting his head crushed in 🙂

Oh my still acting like a child isn't a relevant point.

Sauron died. He wasn't permanently done and was able to come back via the ring. This isn't relevant to the debate anyways which started because you claimed the Ak won't work. It kills the body. Sauron's body died. 🙂

How ? Sauron didn't even kill Gandalf so again quit making things up. Voldemort wins.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Oh my still acting like a child isn't a relevant point.

Sauron died. He wasn't permanently done and was able to come back via the ring. This isn't relevant to the debate anyways which started because you claimed the Ak won't work. It kills the body. Sauron's body died. 🙂

How ?

Sauron didn't even kill Gandalf so again quit making things up. Voldemort wins.

"No you!" tactics is the extent of your cleverness 👆

Already proved AK won't work on heavily armoured Sauron.

Juts explained how.

You're using an instance where Sauron wasn't in his physical form and a plot point that we've yet to fully see as an argument? 😂 @ you failing again

Originally posted by Robtard
"No you!" tactics is the extent of your cleverness 👆

Already proved AK won't work on heavily armoured Sauron.

Juts explained how.

It works on people with clothes. Prove it won't work on armor. Who said it had to hit skin,

No, you didn't.

Originally posted by quanchi112
It works on people with clothes. Prove it won't work on armor. Who said it had to hit skin,

No, you didn't.

It can be blocked by doors and walls. So clothes is the same as heavy plate armor now? 😂 @ you again.

Yes I did. Just did it again too.

Originally posted by Robtard
It can be blocked by doors and walls. So clothes is the same as heavy plate armor now? 😂 @ you again.

Yes I did. Just did it again too.

Those are inanimate objects. You are comparing inanimate objects to people with clothing on.

No, you didn't. It is up to you to prove this claim.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Those are inanimate objects. You are comparing inanimate objects to people with clothing on.

No, you didn't.

It is up to you to prove this claim.

You're comparing clothes to armor 😂

Yes I did. Did it and redid it again above.

Incorrect again, you claimed Sauron goes down to an AK by apply 'no limits' nonsense. So it's actually your claim to prove. I just went ahead and disproved it, to be kind.

Originally posted by Robtard
You're comparing clothes to armor 😂

Yes I did. Did it and redid it again above.

Incorrect again, you claimed Sauron goes down to an AK by apply 'no limits' nonsense. So it's actually your claim to prove. I just went ahead and disproved it, to be kind.

So prove the difference because your logic makes no sense. If it hits the person they die. Basically put a suit of armor and it can't hurt you. Ridiculous.

Killing a guy that dies is you sever a finger isn't no limits, sport.

Originally posted by quanchi112
So prove the difference because your logic makes no sense. If it hits the person they die. Basically put a suit of armor and it can't hurt you. Ridiculous.

Killing a guy that dies is you sever a finger isn't no limits, sport.

Prove the difference between say a cotton shirt and heavy plate armour? 😂

😂 AK won't sever Sauron's armor and remove the ring. You probably want to watch the HP flicks or at least look up what AK does, cos "cutting through armor" isn't one of them. There are other spells for that.