RotS Sidious and RoT Bane run a gauntlet

Started by Pwned3 pages

Caedus won't stand a chance, though. Bane has Orbalisks.

Caedus' best thing is his lightsaber ability. But when that is totally irrelevant due to the Orbalisks and Bane himself? He resorts to Force powers. Which Bane more than likely outclasses him in.

Originally posted by Pwned
Luke wasn't trying to kill Caedus.

"He parried a weak slash at his thighs, then drew his blade up diagonally where his nephew's chest should have been."

"Luke landed a snap-kick to the stomach that lifted Jacen a meter off the deck, then followed it with a slash to the neck-"

"Luke closed to within two meters without saying a word. What point would there have been? Jacen wasn't going to surrender, and Luke wouldn't have believed him if he offered. It was better to attack quickly, while he still had the advantage. He brought his lightsaber up to strike."

Caedus won't stand a chance, though. Bane has Orbalisks.

Caedus' best thing is his lightsaber ability. But when that is totally irrelevant due to the Orbalisks and Bane himself? He resorts to Force powers. Which Bane more than likely outclasses him in.


Obralisk does not make Caedus' saber ability irrelevant. Obralisk has got weaknesses and Caedus knows well how to exploit these weaknesses since he fought Youzhan Vong.

Uhhh doesn't Caedus also have the ability to see shatterpoints making him especially effective against Orbalisks?

Dunno if he could capitalize on any of it. Whats he going to do, try to pull that tapping shite again? Other than that you don't need Shatterpoint to see Banes weakpoints, they're in plain view.

Originally posted by Mizukage Yoda
Uhhh doesn't Caedus also have the ability to see shatterpoints making him especially effective against Orbalisks?

Agreed.
Two techniques I know are effective against Orbalisks are FL and Shatterpoint, both of which Caedus is able to utilize against Bane.

Could jacen possibly be able to influence/manipulate the orbalisks like he did with the yammaosk, sand dragon and other creatures.

We can't say for sure that the orbalisks do in fact possess a shatterpoint in the first place and we have reason to believe they don't; for one thing Bane was never able to find a means of securely removing them (this of course doesn't rule out methods that would be harmful to Bane in their removal, such as electricity) and given that Shatterpoint is I believe a technique that all Force-Users are capable of utilizing (the likes of Mace, Caedus and Luke were notable for having a special talent with the ability) and Bane has demonstrated some ability to use the Force to probe for weaknesses (in his second fight with Sirak) I feel we can safely assume that given enough time, he would be able to achieve the same effect that Caedus might otherwise immediately be able to. That he was never able to find a means to remove them would suggest that they don't possess such a non-harmful means of removal that would be discernible and available to a Force-User in any practical terms. It's also pretty heavily exposited that electricity was the only practical method of removing them, and no alternative method has been suggested in either any of the reference material that has been released thus far nor from Zannah's own personal experience with the Jedi Archives. I find it unlikely that they do possess such a critical weakness.

I also recall that Mace personally found some difficulty in using Shatterpoint in dynamic situations, and it's also worth noting that detecting a shatterpoint means little if you are not able to capitalize on it, and given Bane's speed it's very likely that any momentary hole in his defenses would be quickly filled. In the first place, we can't say for sure that he does in fact leave any holes in his defense, as far as the capacity to which he protects the few vulnerable areas that the orbalisks do not.

Regarding Force Lightning, it can only be said to be a weakness to the orbalisks in the sense that it can potentially damage the orbalisks where by comparison other forms of attack practically cannot ever. The orbalisks still offer a far greater than usual protection to electricity; certainly far more than the naked human skin. And of course Bane has plenty of means of preventing it from touching the orbalisks in any event anyway.

Originally posted by axel_jovan
Darth Bane in his prime is whisked away miraculously and arrives at the Chancellor’s office by the end of the Clone Wars.
He faces powerful Darth Sidious, but instead of fighting each other, the Sith decide to join forces and enter a gauntlet—the victorious team will rule the galaxy forever!

Setting: Chancellor’s office, where Sidious and Mace fought in RotS.

Conditions: TWO scenarios 1) 3 hours rest between the battles 2) full rest between the battles

Can the unlikely allies make it? 😎

1. CW Maul, Savage, Ventress and Kas'im
2. Revan and Malak
3. Exar Kun and Ulic
4. Malgus and Zannah
5. RotS Dooku and OT Vader
6. Plagueis and Caedus

1. CW Maul, Savage, Ventress and Kas'im
2. Revan and Malak
3. Exar Kun and Ulic
4. Malgus and Zannah
5. RotS Dooku and OT Vader
6. Plagueis and Caedus

1. Stomp
2. Stomp
3. Stomp
4. Stomp
5. Hard, but they will make it.
6. Win 75/25

P.S. This is my first post, so I am still learning formats. THX

Welcome to the forum. 🙂

Originally posted by Ascendancy
Five may require some sweat, but they will never be in danger of dying. .

Hmm, there is always a possibility that Vader overwhelms Bane with the Force. But I agree, they clear it because Sidious handles Dooku quite swiftly.
Originally posted by Ascendancy
Six, peak Sidious definitely outclasses his successor. Bane is Caedus' superior in every way.

I’m not seeing it. For one thing, Caedus seems to have superior TK – tackling a ship with ease comes to mind.
And is sabers department Bane superiority is rather vague. They are in the same boat saber-wise IMHO.
Originally posted by Ascendancy
but even the reference to being greater than Vader is only so so, as we know how diminished Vader was by his injuries. .

Vader’s Force potential, while indeed hampered by his injuries, didn’t stop him to rival amped!Bane’s feats and even surpass non-amped!Bane.

Originally posted by axel_jovan
Hmm, there is always a possibility that Vader overwhelms Bane with the Force.

tehe

Wow, not even a possibility that Vader could beat Bane Force-wise? facepalm

Theres a possibility that he could beat him, but not that he could overwhelm him imo.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Theres a possibility that he could beat him, but not that he could overwhelm him imo.

Would you mind clarifying as to the distinction between "beat" and "overwhelm" in this context?

Well you might be able to beat a bear in a fistfight, its happened, but I doubt you could overpower one.

Originally posted by Nephthys
tehe

LOL wut?

Destroying a cathedral, tackling a ship with the Force, matching Galen "I disintegrate frigates and topple AT-AT with ease" Marek > Bane's TK.

The cathedral feat hasn't been proven to an extent that I'd recognise it as valid, you just said that Caedus tackled a ship, are you sure you're not confusing them? If not, I've never seen Vader 'tackle' a ship. And point out where Vader matches Marek in TK.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Well you might be able to beat a bear in a fistfight, its happened, but I doubt you could overpower one.

Bro, I think you might be splitting hairs on this one.

Aren't you doing the same thing?

Originally posted by Nephthys
Aren't you doing the same thing?

...How?