RotS Sidious and RoT Bane run a gauntlet

By being all 'wow, not even a possibility'!? Splitting hairs over the use of the word 'possibility'. When I didn't actually say that there wasn't a possibility in the first place.

Originally posted by Nephthys
By being all 'wow, not even a [b]possibility'!? Splitting hairs over the use of the word 'possibility'. When I didn't actually say that there wasn't a possibility in the first place. [/B]

Ah, my mistake. I assumed condescending!Bill Gates was there to express your condescension rather than consensus. 👆

It was.

To the possibility of Caedus Vader 'overwhelming' Bane. he

Is Caedus an anagram for Vader?

Whoops.

Concession accepted.

Originally posted by Nephthys
The cathedral feat hasn't been proven to an extent that I'd recognise it as valid,

Again:

Well, you can see Vader standing in the middle of a cathedral…then he gets worked up…then he stretches his arms and wrecks the place.
Notice how Sidious even says in the last panel “You were buried alive for days”. Vader did destroy that cathedral.

you just said that Caedus tackled a ship, are you sure you're not confusing them? If not, I've never seen Vader 'tackle' a ship.

Yes, Caedus tackled a ship.(matter for another thread 😛)

And yes, Vader tackled a ship with ease. The more impressive considering he literally pulled it down from the sky. Notice also that after he brings it down and he withstands a following explosion.

And point out where Vader matches Marek in TK.

First Vader TKs Marek down. Then he rips a frikking huge mast and proceeds to TK it onto Marek. They are pretty evenly matched Force-wise.

In other words, yes, I am fairly certain Vader's TK > Bane's TK

What am I conceding? Because I might need to move some assets around.

And by 'assets' I mean assets. haw-som

Vader's telekinesis isn't above Orbalisk Bane's. Guy disintegrated a dozens of technobeasts.

Originally posted by Intrepid37
Vader's telekinesis isn't above Orbalisk Bane's. Guy disintegrated a dozens of technobeasts.

Regardless, Vader was a fair match for Marek who himself disintegrated a frigate, a feat that I find much more impressive than Bane's.
I see no reason why disintegration would be a deal breaker in Bane-Vader fight, given that it was not in Marek-Vader battle.

Moreover, when I speak about TK I tend to have "throw big a$$ things around" in mind. 🙂 Perhaps not as sophisticated as disintegration, but when it comes to overwhelming your opponent, it will certainly suffice. And here Vader has better feats IMHO. / shrug

I don't think it's a technique nor did I claim he'd disintegrate Vader. But disintegration is a very powerful display of power in my opinion, more impressive than any of Vader's showings.

Bane thrust out with the Force, and a dozen of the oncoming creatures exploded into dust and tiny flecks of small, twisted metal. But the others surged forward like a wave, driving him under. Their feet stomped and kicked at him; their bladed arms slashed at him as he lay prone on the floor. But none of their attacks could pierce the chitinous shells of his orbalisk armor.

That enemy vanquished, he used the Force to disintegrate two more advancing technobeasts, then felt something bump against his foot.

👆

Originally posted by Intrepid37
I don't think it's a technique

Originally posted by Intrepid37
nor did I claim he'd disintegrate Vader.

Originally posted by Intrepid37
But disintegration is a very powerful display of power in my opinion, more impressive than any of Vader's showings.

TBH I don't know what more I can say, though. I believe that in a direct contest of TK vs TK Vader will come out on top, concerning his numerous TK showings that I personally find to be more impressive than Bane's.

I guess, we will have to agree to disagree on that./shrug

Originally posted by axel_jovan
Wut?

Again:

Well, you can see Vader standing in the middle of a cathedral…then he gets worked up…then he stretches his arms and wrecks the place.
Notice how Sidious even says in the last panel “You were buried alive for days”. Vader [b]did destroy that cathedral. [/B]

I see no such thing. Why are his arms already raised in the first picture. It looks to me like he's already holding it up or something. I also don't know how big the cathedral is. Or what its made of. It appears to be glass, in which case it is hardly an impressive feat.

Perhaps if I knew which source it was from.....

Originally posted by axel_jovan
[B]
Confusing Caedus with Vader….LOL wut? C’mon 🙂

Yes, Caedus tackled a ship.(matter for another thread 😛)

And yes, Vader tackled a ship with ease. The more impressive considering he literally pulled it down from the sky. Notice also that after he brings it down and he withstands a following explosion.

Oh, its just a Y-Wing. I thought you meant, like, an actual ship. But yeah, that's a pretty cool feat I guess.

Originally posted by axel_jovan
Er… didn’t you notice that during both of their fights in TFU and TFUII neither one could best the other for a long period of time. They were evenly matched.
Yes, in the end Marek prevailed but it was a close fight both times. Either way, here you go:
YouTube video
Starts around 7.07

First Vader TKs Marek down. Then he rips a frikking huge mast and proceeds to TK it onto Marek. They are pretty evenly matched Force-wise.

In other words, yes, I am fairly certain Vader's TK > Bane's TK

Haha, no. Galen was clearly off-balance and/or taken by surprise by Vaders Force Push and was subsequently still recovering when Vader hit him with the mast. You can tell because he hadn't stood up again yet. When he gets his barrings though he stops Vaders push on the mast (and its shown that Vader is still trying to push/crush him), rips another mast out of the ground while still resisting Vader and then overpowers Vaders hold on the mast and chucks it back at him while still holding up his own mast. Galen is obviously the superior there.

I'd also like to know, because Vader starts to die if his mask comes off. Yet he isn't wearing it there.