Tie between Parker, Banner and Murdock with Peter to edge it out if he ever regains control of his body (which is now doubtful).
Both of their lives are torture and it's ridiculous they don't go evil or mad.
Batman, Arsenal(speedy) and Wolverine are close contenders. Marvel and Tragedy goes hand in hand.
let's name their downs to make the comparison more objective:
wolverine -
witnessed his father's murder and his mother's suicide, accidently kills the woman he loves (rose) when defending himself from dog
lost rose, mariko, daken's mother, silver fox and countless other lovers to violent deaths. had to kill jean to put her out of her misery - go to guy for killing phoenix hosts out of their minds
got tortured, brainwahsed and warped into a killing machine a dozen times over by weapon x/plus, romulus, apocalypse, etc.
sent to hell and tortured, overthrew the devil
tricked into killing several of his own children by daken and the red hadn; forced to kill daken to keep him from slaying all the students in his school
bounced back from everything - no one can claim his (sometimes self-imposed) memory blocks are behind it either 'cause he's recovered all his memories and kept going and the worst of those traumas have all come over a period of intact memory creation and retrieval
end result: carrier of xavier's torch, school teacher, x-men, avenger, saved the world a thousand times over.
now, who can top that? specially the part in bold.
Originally posted by 753
let's name their downs to make the comparison more objective:wolverine -
witnessed his father's murder and his mother's suicide, accidently kills the woman he loves (rose) when defending himself from doglost rose, mariko, daken's mother, silver fox and countless other lovers to violent deaths. had to kill jean to put her out of her misery - go to guy for killing phoenix hosts out of their minds
got tortured, brainwahsed and warped into a killing machine a dozen times over by weapon x/plus, romulus, apocalypse, etc.
sent to hell and tortured, overthrew the devil
[b]tricked into killing several of his own children by daken and the red hadn; forced to kill daken to keep him from slaying all the students in his school
bounced back from everything - no one can claim his (sometimes self-imposed) memory blocks are behind it either 'cause he's recovered all his memories and kept going and the worst of those traumas have all come over a period of intact memory creation and retrieval
end result: carrier of xavier's torch, school teacher, x-men, avenger, saved the world a thousand times over.
now, who can top that? specially the part in bold. [/B]
You, sir, make a compelling argument.
Wolverine...everyone he's loved or cared about has been slaughtered and the same people that slaughtered his loved ones are still in his life trying to kill the only friends and family he have. The guy has no peace what'so ever. This doesn't include people manipulating him to attack his friends, or outright transforming him to attack Earth.
Originally posted by 753
let's name their downs to make the comparison more objective:
Hal's home city was destroyed and everyone he loved on Earth was killed, which made him go batshit crazy.
Then he actively killed tons of Green Lanterns who were friends and teammates, actively killed all the Guardians except Ganthet, passively killed hundreds more Green Lanterns when he took the Central Power Battery for himself. He went on to kill a whole bunch more people and, ultimately, destroy the universe.
Then he sacrificed himself to reignite the sun and save Earth, then came back to life and basically saved the universe in Blackest Night.
That's the biggest fall - by far - of anyone mentioned here, and by extension the biggest comeback.
Originally posted by Cogitonope. the simple fact he lost his shit like that to begin with shows what a candy-ass he really is. mofo couldn't cope with the destruction of his city and became a genocidal traitor. how's that a testament to his fortitude?
Hal's home city was destroyed and everyone he loved on Earth was killed, which made him go batshit crazy.Then he actively killed tons of Green Lanterns who were friends and teammates, actively killed all the Guardians except Ganthet, passively killed hundreds more Green Lanterns when he took the Central Power Battery for himself. He went on to kill a whole bunch more people and, ultimately, destroy the universe.
Then he sacrificed himself to reignite the sun and save Earth, then came back to life and basically saved the universe in Blackest Night.
That's the biggest fall - by far - of anyone mentioned here, and by extension the biggest comeback.
after the parallax retcon, none of that shit can be atributed to him anyway.
EDIT: maybe I'm interpreting the op differently from you: I take it to mean "who took the worst life had to dish out and overcame/stayed true?"
Doom's endured torture at the hands of the Beyonder and Hell and not only took it like a man, winds up getting the last laugh. Guy's childhood was a mess and he lost pretty much everyone he cared about before returning home and usurping the throne. His mother's soul being eternally damned didn't stop him from challenging Mephisto ever year, eventually saving her with help from Strange. He's had his kingdom taken from him during times of absence only to take it back with a vengeance. He willingly sacrificed the one woman who truly and honestly loved him (and he cared for her, too) for badass skin armor. Guy survived being literally ripped apart at the dawn of time in addition to all the other bullshit thrown his way.
And in the end, he's always been Doom and true to himself. His entire character is centered around making absurd comebacks from total defeat/near death/anguish of some kind.
Originally posted by 753
nope. the simple fact he lost his shit like that to begin with shows what a candy-ass he really is. mofo couldn't cope with the destruction of his city and became a genocidal traitor. how's that a testament to his fortitude?
Originally posted by curryman
Which hero has come back from the lowest possible point...what hero has managed to recover from a really, really low point?
Originally posted by 753Yup, you're misinterpreting the question. Hal fell to the lowest point of anyone mentioned, and he came back. That's exactly the OP's question, unless the OP accidentally worded the question differently than he meant.
EDIT: maybe I'm interpreting the op differently from you: I take it to mean "who took the worst life had to dish out and overcame/stayed true?"
Originally posted by Cogitoin that case, yes. hal wins, if we ignore the parallax retcon.
It's not a testament to his fortitude. Hal's a pansy ass *****. But the OP's question was...
Yup, you're misinterpreting the question. Hal fell to the lowest point of anyone mentioned, and he came back. That's [b]exactly the OP's question, unless the OP accidentally worded the question differently than he meant. [/B]