Originally posted by curryman
Please stop bringing up Doom because of the Beyonder incident.It's completely unrelatable and it lasted like 1 comic 😛
Engineer had a pretty low point in her life when she was trapped with that husband who raped and got her addicted to meth.
It's a classic moment and one of the defining points in his career.
Even excluding that, he's had plenty of sour moments from his childhood to his adulthood that's he's comeback from.
Cyclops definitely had some stuff after the whole Apocalypse thing.
I don't know much about Aquaman, but pollution of the sea and oil-spills have to be real annoying.
Wolverine had to kill his own son, and I think that would be up there, but it doesn't look like he was affected that much. This thread isn't supposed to be -who's had the most shit done to them-, but who's recovered from the lowest point.
In that sense I think Wolverine recovering from the post-Rose trauma is far more impressive than just about anything he's suffered in the latter years, though the Logan Files had him through some rough shit 🙂
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
It's a classic moment and one of the defining points in his career.Even excluding that, he's had plenty of sour moments from his childhood to his adulthood that's he's comeback from.
Suffering a setback and being at a very low point in your life is far from the same-thing. Doom basically absorbed absolute power not long after he was beat. Not only that but his mind and will are so durable that I can bet you a hundred far less serious events have affected other people to a far greater degree. Nor is it something that any human being can really relate to, I feel like 😛
Originally posted by currymannah killing daken on top of the others ****ed him up good. it's what drove him to shut down x-force and focus full-time on a more chuckish way of handling business.Wolverine had to kill his own son, and I think that would be up there, but it doesn't look like he was affected that much. This thread isn't supposed to be -who's had the most shit done to them-, but who's recovered from the lowest point.
In that sense I think Wolverine recovering from the post-Rose trauma is far more impressive than just about anything he's suffered in the latter years, though the Logan Files had him through some rough shit 🙂
I wouldn't say he's recovered but Daniel Ketch was in a pretty bad place before they recruited him for the Ghost Rider killin'
Originally posted by 753
quentin is the wolverine to logan's xavier, plus the little twerp grows on you
It's getting a bit off topic, but I'm actually surprised at how well Wolverine's been handling kids throughout the years. Kitty, Jubilee, Quentin and so on.
Daredevil's literally had the gun at his temple. I can think of few who have been lower than him. Especially after the whole Pariah-arc (which someone mentioned before me).
Originally posted by abhilegend
Superman came back after living personification of death destroyed the entire multiverse and made him watch it to break his spirit.
Superman's the only one who remembers Emp.Joker right?
It is a feat beyond just about anything else, but like I mentioned earlier with Doom, Superman's will and spirit are too strong for this thread. It's a tremendous hit to his willpower, but it didn't seem particularly humiliating, etc.
I'm sorry if it feels like I'm just tossing out new stipulation's here, but I wasn't able to fully convey what I wanted in the opening post 😛
Originally posted by -Pr-
It's an interesting point. Do we go by the magnitude of the event, or by how deeply affected the character was? They're not always proportionate.
How they affected the character.
Thanks for helping make the distinction, like you said it's not always proportionate and that's why I felt like excluding the Doom-Beyonder event and Superman in Emp.Joker. To me, Superman seemed to take a far greater hit in For Tomorrow and Manchester's Endgame 🙂
Originally posted by currymanYes.
Superman's the only one who remembers Emp.Joker right?
It is a feat beyond just about anything else, but like I mentioned earlier with Doom, Superman's will and spirit are too strong for this thread. It's a tremendous hit to his willpower, but it didn't seem particularly humiliating, etc.It was. Death made superman live billions of years seeing everything die around him untill he didn't even remember who he was and was begging for death to kill him.
I'm sorry if it feels like I'm just tossing out new stipulation's here, but I wasn't able to fully convey what I wanted in the opening post 😛I know.
Hank Pym
He gets no respect
Hero, Founder/Leader of the Avengers, & all around good guy
Goes insane and strikes his wife once, and it gets brought up every time he meets someone.
Not to mention his friends thought he was a skrull traitor, his "son" dreams of nothing but genocide, & to top it off Wolverine went back in time with the wife of arguably his best friend to kill him instead of tell him about Ultron and talk him out of building him...
Originally posted by JakeTheBankYou forgot the part about how he dammed himself in front of his mother by trying to sacrifice strange to save her. She turned her back on him when she saw what he became.
Doom's endured torture at the hands of the Beyonder and Hell and not only took it like a man, winds up getting the last laugh. Guy's childhood was a mess and he lost pretty much everyone he cared about before returning home and usurping the throne. His mother's soul being eternally damned didn't stop him from challenging Mephisto ever year, eventually saving her with help from Strange. He's had his kingdom taken from him during times of absence only to take it back with a vengeance. He willingly sacrificed the one woman who truly and honestly loved him (and he cared for her, too) for badass skin armor. Guy survived being literally ripped apart at the dawn of time in addition to all the other bullshit thrown his way.And in the end, he's always been Doom and true to himself. His entire character is centered around making absurd comebacks from total defeat/near death/anguish of some kind.
