Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
And the instances of Wolverine taking a lot more than Ock's "full" strength means nothing now? The nukes, the hellfire, the punches from Juggernaut, Hulk, Colossus etc.
Originally posted by ScreamPasteSame character. Lol.
Not seeing what your point is here, Zant could not do that to end game Link and Wolverine doesn't have magic.Learn to definition, pls.
No, you have not, you refuse to post any evidence to back your claims.
You refuse to behave in a sane fashion.
Wolverine cuts his throat out.
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Many of those things temporarily incapacitated him, and that's all they need to do. Wolverine is not immune to being sent reeling or dazed. I'm not arguing Link knocks his head off.
Those people have the strength to knock him out but usually after drawn out fights. It's rare that those have ever oneshotted him, don't think Colossus ever did. When have they temporarily incapacitated him? I know you're not arguing that, I'm arguing that Link isn't going to just casually knock him out and he's not going to get some flawless victory over him. Wolverine is a much better and faster fighter, more deadly, skilled and tactical. He's tagged people much faster, closed the gap between people in blinks. I may not be a fan of the character but I'm not going to ignore his history. He's taken on teams and won or at least put up a great fight. I'm still not seeing what Link brings that the others above him that lost doesn't have.
I know you're not arguing that, I'm arguing that Link isn't going to just casually knock him out and he's not going to get some flawless victory over himI'm not arguing this, either. Though when I argue with Quan it's mostly to point out the things he says that are wrong so the last ten thousand pages probably are lost to translation.
I have no intention of ignoring Wolverine's history.
Wolverine is a much better and faster fighter, more deadly, skilled and tactical. He's tagged people much faster, closed the gap between people in blinks.I don't believe that Wolverine has higher combat speed, nor is he faster than the chief enemy Link needed to overcome in Twilight Princess: Ganondorf. Ganondorf's speed and reflexes are extremely consistant across games. Arrows that can pierce solid stone and magical gems, penetrate massive super powerful tornados to strike the deity inside, travel obscene distances with high accuracy very quickly simply cannot touch Ganondorf if he does not allow it. OoT also has him deflecting lightning. Ganondorf's first kill in TP, having just recieve the ToP and at his weakest having not yet unlocked the artifact's power, was apparently super-sonic, according to OBD. I don't go there, but the blogs get shared with me. shrug I don't know how accurate this is, I didn't double check it. I don't think it's too relevant, considering Link bested Ganon at his peak who is capable of much more, as evidenced across every 3D game he appears in. Ganon is just as capable of harming Link as Logan is, due to Ganon's massive physical strength. Link did come out on top there. (It took him four rounds to do it, but he did.)
He also has combat teleportation, as does Zant who Link also bested. Link can hang with Ganondorf in terms of combat speed. I'm not going to argue he's as fast as OoT Link, but his combat speed is certainly high enough, and he has other advantages that cannot be ignored.
One is reach. In order for Wolverine to even make it within reach of Link he has to get past more than three feet of blade just to make contact, Link has no such trouble.
Another big one is that Wolverine's physical strength being as far below Links as it is that Link can manipulate Logan's body against Logan's will should he get hold of him and Logan would have no recourse. Logan needs this to remain 100% striking, in a grapple Link is simply too physically powerful, Logan would never be able to bring his claws to bear.
Skill can be debated, Logan obviously has many more showings as TP Link only got one game, that being said being retardo-skilled is basically Link's defining power. I won't argue this either way, though I will, get ready for this, admit that the evidence does tend to support Logan as the more skilled combatant. I just do not think that with Link's strength and combat speed advantage this will make a huge difference.
Link's final large advantage is that he carries a mini-mjolnir. It's nothing like the Skyfather hammer Thor has damaged Galactus with, but it's not without it's usefulness, as its' earliest incarnation was capable of severing and levitating a small continent from the Earth, and it's consistantly harmed Ganondorf who shrugged off a castle busting blow from the Fused Shadows.
How much of this is due to destructive, offensive magic, or negation of Ganon's own power is open to speculation, but the sword does have destructive feats, and Link's own strength behind it.
My argument is not that Link casually KO's Logan, my argument is simply that Link can hurt Logan badly enough to land a second blow. Then another. So on. Due to his greater reach and comparable if not better speed, this is more likely than not to be the case.
Logan has been temporarily KO'd or stunned by much less many times; Mister X could stagger him with blows from his fists and elbows. Spider-Man has done the same and KO'd him more than once, Spiderwoman's KO'd him twice, IIRC. He was out temporarily after jumping off that mountain. Not for long, but long enough for a character whose entire M.O. is 'attack when its' vulnerable' to capitalize.
Yeah, Logan has some very high showings of being able to continue uninhibited after schlobberknocks from The Hulk, but I'm not arguing Link OHKO's like has occured in some of Wolverine's lower showings. More that through many powerful blows above what has effected him in the past, he'll get there eventually.
I'm essentially arguing for the middle.