Surtur W/Twilight Sword Vs DP Tyrant

Started by abhilegend14 pages

So odin knocking out surfer is a bad showing for surfer now? Lawl.

Originally posted by abhilegend
So odin knocking out surfer is a bad showing for surfer now? Lawl.

When you compare it to other times he's gone up against powerful beings? Yes, especially the "one shot" nature of it. He even gave you an example.

Odin one shotting Surfer is perfectly within the realm of feasibility given Odin's feats.

Originally posted by zopzop
When you compare it to other times he's gone up against powerful beings? Yes, especially the "one shot" nature of it. He even gave you an example.

He did? How does he failed to mention that a holding back Aegis oneshotted him? Being left for dying in four shots isn't better than oneshot knockout. Mrrungu-mu is all hype and he was kicking surfer's ass too. Also he attacked Gaea with all the other defenders and she didn't even pay him any attention. Odin has oneshotted him, Mephisto has killed him in one shot, Aegis has oneshotted him. Surfer's record against skyfathers and above is piss poor and Odin oneshotting him isn't a bad showing for him at all.

Originally posted by abhilegend
He did? How does he failed to mention that a holding back Aegis oneshotted him? Being left for dying in four shots isn't better than oneshot knockout. Mrrungu-mu is all hype and he was kicking surfer's ass too. Also he attacked Gaea with all the other defenders and she didn't even pay him any attention. Odin has oneshotted him, Mephisto has killed him in one shot, Aegis has oneshotted him. Surfer's record against skyfathers and above is piss poor and Odin oneshotting him isn't a bad showing for him at all.

How do you know Aegis was holding back? She never one-shotted the Surfer anyway, even in their initial confrontation. You were in such a hurry to talk shit you got your facts mixed up. Mrrungo Mu was all hype? Is that why Galactus avoided a confrontation with him? Or why he was easily able to capture every superhuman on Earth, including Thor? He beat Thor, Hulk and a few others with a casual ease that has rarely been seen.

It's funny how you get all emo when it comes to the Surfer. That's probably because the majority of people on forums everywhere give him the win over your precious Man of Steel. 😂

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Originally posted by Dampyre
How do you know Aegis was holding back? She never one-shotted the Surfer anyway, even in their initial confrontation. You were in such a hurry to talk shit you got your facts mixed up. Mrrungo Mu was all hype? Is that why Galactus avoided a confrontation with him? Or why he was easily able to capture every superhuman on Earth, including Thor? He beat Thor, Hulk and a few others with a casual ease that has rarely been seen.

It's funny how you get all emo when it comes to the Surfer. That's probably because the majority of people on forums everywhere give him the win over your precious Man of Steel. 😂


Because she specifically said she was there to capture him and not to kill him. I checked back and she two-shotted him. That makes all the difference!! Galactus is a pussy, he beats FP Tyrant and avoids a fight with DP Tyrant. That's not Tyrant or Mrrungo being powerful, that's Galactus being a huge pussy. Mrrungo beat them by absorbing their powers which didn't work on surfer. Convenient.

Also lawl @bringing superman here. At least he doesn't gets oneshotted by skyfathers.

Originally posted by abhilegend
He did? How does he failed to mention that a holding back Aegis oneshotted him? Being left for dying in four shots isn't better than oneshot knockout. Mrrungu-mu is all hype and he was kicking surfer's ass too. Also he attacked Gaea with all the other defenders and she didn't even pay him any attention. Odin has oneshotted him, Mephisto has killed him in one shot, Aegis has oneshotted him. Surfer's record against skyfathers and above is piss poor and Odin oneshotting him isn't a bad showing for him at all.

Aegis never one shotted Surfer.

Classic Korvac, who forum members say is a skyfather or skyfather+ level being

didn't one shot Surfer :

Mrrunngu Mu didn't one shot Surfer.

The Mephisto that one shotted Surfer went toe to toe vs Galactus, power for power till Galactus disengaged and attempted to eat Mephisto's realm. Even Odin didn't dare challenge Galactus like that but instead engaged him telepathically. That was the highest showing we've ever seen by Mephisto.

Originally posted by zopzop
Aegis never one shotted Surfer.

Classic Korvac, who forum members say is a skyfather or skyfather+ level being

didn't one shot Surfer :

Mrrunngu Mu didn't one shot Surfer.

The Mephisto that one shotted Surfer went toe to toe vs Galactus, power for power till Galactus disengaged and attempted to eat Mephisto's realm. Even Odin didn't dare challenge Galactus like that but instead engaged him telepathically. That was the highest showing we've ever seen by Mephisto.


Yeah, she twoshotted him. Big whoop. She is Odin level too and was specifically holding back.

Korvac isn't a skyfather.

Mrrungo's main tactic didn't work on surfer, i.e. absorbing.

I'm talking about Defenders 100 where mephisto killed him. A showing where Mephisto showed skyfather level power against galactus oneshotted surfer. How surprising!

Mrrungo Mu, Tenebrous, and Aegis all did something that Odin did not, and that's crack the Surfer's shell. It's obvious that those attacks were more powerful than Odin's.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Because she specifically said she was there to capture him and not to kill him. I checked back and she two-shotted him. That makes all the difference!! Galactus is a pussy, he beats FP Tyrant and avoids a fight with DP Tyrant. That's not Tyrant or Mrrungo being powerful, that's Galactus being a huge pussy. Mrrungo beat them by absorbing their powers which didn't work on surfer. Convenient.

Also lawl @bringing superman here. At least he doesn't gets oneshotted by skyfathers.

Mu beat them up and then absorbed their powers. Better read it again. lol

And Tyrant's powers worked differently in his second fight with Galactus. He wasn't quite as powerful but was now able to absorb G's power.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Also lawl @bringing superman here. At least he doesn't gets oneshotted by skyfathers.

If I didn't bring that ****** boy scout into this then you would have. It's what you do. And Galactus, Mu and the like would deal with Superman just as easily as they would the Surfer. Don't delude yourself.

Originally posted by Dampyre
If I didn't bring that ****** boy scout into this then you would have. It's what you do. And Galactus, Mu and the like would deal with Superman just as easily as they would the Surfer. Don't delude yourself.
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Every debate seems like a veiled Superman argument with him

And the thread becomes a mini Superman Respect Thread in one, two...

Anyone remember Galactus one-shotting an amped-up Superman in that FF crossover? It may not be canon but it's fun to bring up.

Originally posted by Dampyre
Mrrungo Mu, Tenebrous, and Aegis all did something that Odin did not, and that's crack the Surfer's shell. It's obvious that those attacks were more powerful than Odin's.

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Originally posted by Dampyre
Mu beat them up and then absorbed their powers. Better read it again. lol

And Tyrant's powers worked differently in his second fight with Galactus. He wasn't quite as powerful but was now able to absorb G's power.


I haven't read it in awhile. Do you have the scans?

Also Galactus backed away from Tyrant in SS v3 82.

Originally posted by Dampyre
If I didn't bring that ****** boy scout into this then you would have. It's what you do. And Galactus, Mu and the like would deal with Superman just as easily as they would the Surfer. Don't delude yourself.

Certainly not. Surfer fans bring superman everytime they are backed into a corner though.

Name me a skyfather who has oneshotted superman. Superman regularly fights and beats skyfather level beings under his own power unlike that eunuch who gets oneshotted or better twoshotted whenever he meets a skyfather.

Anybody remember cyborg superman making cosmic eunuch dance like a ballerina and then laughing off his attacks? Its actually canon and quite fun.

Originally posted by ODG
Odin casually one-shot Surfer and Drax. DP Tyrant didn't one-shot Surfer or Gladiator or Beta Ray Bill at all... despite having just drained them of some power with his machines. Thanos didn't budge Odin. Thanos toppled DP Tyrant a few times.

DP Tyrant is comparable to Odin. But I don't see what puts him above Odin at all.

You know why Big ODG... Cause of how they did respectively against common foes....

Thanos against Odin - Thanos wasn't going there to fight Odin but seeking his help. He didn't prep nor acquire any amps to fight Odin. Odin also pulled out a weapon to increase his blasting power.. tyrant didn't pull out any weapon to aid him at all. Yet, despite not moving him much... still NEVER backed down from Odin nor admitted Odin was superior at all.... now this is in stark contrast to

Thanos vs. Tyrant - Thanos went looking for a fight against Tyrant to test his might. He prepped and studied Tyrant before meeting to learn about any weakness he may have. He acquired an amp to fight Tyrant. Tyrant pulled out no weapon to add him at all. Yet, despite all this... Thanos ADMITTED he would be killed by Tyrant and left. This was in a much quicker period of time that he admitted it.. compared to the lengthy battle with Odin where he never admitted a thing.

Next is their battles against Galactus.... Tyrant obviously did much better than Odin did against Galactus. Again we have a situation where Galactus prepped before facing Tyrant and even backed down against Tyrant the first time he met him. He fed so much that he hadn't felt that great in ages. Galactus also knows tyrant WAY better than Odin and thus knows his strengths and weakness.. afterall he created him in his own image.

Against Odin... Galactus did feed on a planet near as ripe.. in fact it was stated to be devoid of life. He didn't backed down from Odin before meeting him nor did he prep to face Odin. Nor does he know Odin inside and out like he does Tyrant. Yet he was able to beat him.. and imo.. without too much effort. I woudl also reference Doom getting Galactus' power and basically one shotting Odin. Anyways, the point is.. yet again a common foe does better against Odin

Lastly, I woudl reference Tyrant being made in Galactus image to be an equal. So, since I put Galactus ahead of Odin.. thus if Tyrant was made in that image... AND he has impressive battle feats.. I would thus put him above Odin. Yes, not by a huge amount and it would be a good fight.. but I see Tyrant winning.

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
And the thread becomes a mini Superman Respect Thread in one, two...
veiled? they're only about superman

I am too old lol to recall the outcome but aegis did stop norrin, odin couldnt get up vs big g, and depowered tyrant had big g on the ropes. Do i place Surtur w/Twilight above Odin yes. Do i give em the nod over Depowered T no. See told ya i to damm old for these comics lol