Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Yeah, the KMC tier list is a mess which is why the mods are slowly trying to refine it. I personally wouldn't consider any of those guys to be "mid heralds". Maybe Barry Allen and depending on the Comet.
Yeah okay, but as far as that goes I don't know any consensus beyond what the list. I'm being ridiculed for calling the people in the mid-herald category mid-herald.
Originally posted by Damborgson
I'm basing it off of how well he's done against his peers. He's got a very large history of being able to compete with guys who are out of his league. Until they kick it up a notch of course.As far as his destructive power, of course he's out matched. His tech and versatility though balance him out.
That's not how the list worked back in the day, half of the Flashes were mid heralds with good reason, Magneto was scratching the bottom of the barrel for Low herald, I struggled for months to get Kang into the low herald category.
Iron-Man has outliers, but so does Wolverine, this is unrelated with how the lists were conceived before. I get that people want to argue about IM handling the Hulk in occasion, or getting good hits against powerful characters, but he'd still classify comfortably as bottom low herald, which isn't that difference from what he already was: the top notch high meta.
The problem with lifting up the list is that the word herald will be thrown around with characters that have no business using it. I mean, are people advocating for Doom to mid-herald already? This is calling for tier inflation pretty fast.
Originally posted by 753It's true he prepped for Magneto. His Bleeding Edge suit consists of iron and platinum nanoparticle bundles. In his fight with Magneto, the suit was made of carbon nanotubes and contained a neodynium high-grade super-magnet swarm numbering in the millions.
he isnt always prepped, if that were the case, he'd have tailor made weapons for all enemies he encounters. he specifically prepped for mags because he knew he'd find him.
One thing to remember though is that the amount of time between the Avengers realizing they had to go to Utopia (after speaking with Wolverine) and actually assaulting Utopia was very limited. That all happened in the space of one issue and looked to be, based on side issues of Avengers and New Avengers, less than a day.
So unless Stark is capable of rebuilding his entire suit and creating a couple million magnets in only hours, he probably had the tech laying around already.
Ironman is Mid Herald and stop bumping these old threads with obvious winners. If you want to bump a thread with Hulk, bump that Thanos vs Hulk thread, you'll most def get results. Hulk just fought an amped Ironman and took him out with one punch and peeled his armor like a banana. Before that he withstood an continent level attack from Ironman and tanked it (if anything, it hurt his ears) and afterwards tanked an attack from a more powerful Ironman that gave it his all. I know it feels good saying, Hulk wins, but dang, at least bump threads that hasn't recently happened in comics or a thread where he is fighting someone in his tier.
Originally posted by carver9
Ironman is Mid Herald and stop bumping these old threads with obvious winners. If you want to bump a thread with Hulk, bump that Thanos vs Hulk thread, you'll most def get results. Hulk just fought an amped Ironman and took him out with one punch and peeled his armor like a banana. Before that he withstood an continent level attack from Ironman and tanked it (if anything, it hurt his ears) and afterwards tanked an attack from a more powerful Ironman that gave it his all. I know it feels good saying, Hulk wins, but dang, at least bump threads that hasn't recently happened in comics or a thread where he is fighting someone in his tier.