Current Iron Man vs Savage Hulk

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LGU Senior Member
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Hulk does not consistently overpower Thor physically. It's a give and take, but slightly in Hulk's favor.

It's not a give and take, and there is not much "slightly" about it. Thor hasn't looked good against the Hulk in purely physical terms since 1973. Hulk has flatly overpowered him (again in purely physical terms) numerous times in the intervening four decades. And that is only talking about the direct comparisons - factoring in the indirect evidence too paints an even clearer picture.

Cheers.

Tony Stark Mr. All Day
Originally posted by janus77
Nope, Banner's tech is likely too sophisticated for Tony to grasp.

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Iron Man is without question a mid herald, he's way to versatile.

CIS off Iron Man wins the high majority 8/10. There is truly little reason for him to attempt go only hand2hand with HULK.

Jashro44 Member

Unless I'm missing something the black and gold armor has been pretty unimpressive if thats the armor we are talking about?

carver9 Senior Member

Well, the armor you seen there was his Hulk buster armor...and then he got into an amplified Hulk buster. I guess you can show me any other Ironman suit shooting out Continental level blasts.

quanchi112 Disney

Hulk wins.

HulkIsHulk Senior Member

Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
Supermans strength is dynamic, he can push himself beyond his standard strength levels.

But something which DC was never explicit about. While int he case of Hulk it was a part and parcel of him from the beginning?
By Adrenaline boosts, sun amping or others amps, or writer intrepretation and plot power? Like pretty much any other fictional character? Sure.
Or to be more precise, like Spiderman's dynamic strength, the "heartforce" with which he pushes himself above his standard levels. Heck, even Wolverine has had adrenaline boosted moments where his strength, durability healing and speed rocketed up.

Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
Hulks strength is only limitless by hyperbole, by feats Superman beats him easily.

Hyperbole enough so that even cosmics comment on it? Lol.
And about feats, its subjective to time. After the next reboot, he'll again have zero feats. And its more on quantifiable feats. In terms of unquantifiable space cheese feats Superman will be owned by Hulk. If you mean the combined feats of Flashpoint, Pre-Crisis, Golden Age, silver agr, pre flashpoint all combined, then I Hulk can have the feats from Maestro, Space Punsher arc, Herald of Galactus Hulk, etc.

Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
So we end up with hyperbole vs actual strength feats and those suggest that Superman lives up to his hype, Hulk doesn't.

You wish. Wait, oh I get it. Better popularity fanboy power right? Then Superman sweeps.

And most of all, Hulk didn't need Superman like hype to get the job done despite the disrespect he gets from his company while Superman is the wanked big boy of DC Comics. Hulk on the other hand isn't allowed to abuse his power, which is why I prefer the big green guy over the blue boyscout.

And by the way, nice fanboy rant and bait.

Originally posted by Tony Stark
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Iron Man is without question a mid herald, he's way to versatile.

CIS off Iron Man wins the high majority 8/10. There is truly little reason for him to attempt go only hand2hand with HULK.


And with CIS off, Hulk won't just stand there but will use his high speed leaps, thunderclap, superleap, throwing skyscrapers at IM etc. to ground him and if it doesn't take him doesn, then tear the armor off of him and KO, or KO him right off the bat.

HulkIsHulk Senior Member

As for the fight, Hulk Smash. Hulk 9.8/10

krisblaze Senior Member

http://i.imgur.com/PUg71NQ.png

Fascinating debate, truly.

Iron Man wins 🙂

carver9 Senior Member

No one takes your posts seriously when you debate anything regarding Hulk. Enjoy.

abhilegend Prince of All Saiyans

Originally posted by HulkIsHulk
[B]But something which DC was never explicit about.
Really? How many superman comics have you read?
While int he case of Hulk it was a part and parcel of him from the beginning?
By Adrenaline boosts, sun amping or others amps, or writer intrepretation and plot power? Like pretty much any other fictional character? Sure.
Or to be more precise, like Spiderman's dynamic strength, the "heartforce" with which he pushes himself above his standard levels. Heck, even Wolverine has had adrenaline boosted moments where his strength, durability healing and speed rocketed up.
This shows not much.

Hyperbole enough so that even cosmics comment on it? Lol.
Yes.
And about feats, its subjective to time. After the next reboot, he'll again have zero feats.
Just like Hulk would have to start again when the next personality emerges.
And its more on quantifiable feats. In terms of unquantifiable space cheese feats Superman will be owned by Hulk.
Oh really? Superman along with Cap lifted a book with infinite weight. Compare a hulk feat like that.
If you mean the combined feats of Flashpoint, Pre-Crisis, Golden Age, silver agr, pre flashpoint all combined, then I Hulk can have the feats from Maestro, Space Punsher arc, Herald of Galactus Hulk, etc.
Hahahahaha.

You wish. Wait, oh I get it. Better popularity fanboy power right? Then Superman sweeps.
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And most of all, Hulk didn't need Superman like hype to get the job done despite the disrespect he gets from his company while Superman is the wanked big boy of DC Comics. Hulk on the other hand isn't allowed to abuse his power, which is why I prefer the big green guy over the blue boyscout.
Wait what? Hulk has been wanked to hell by marvel this last decade.

And by the way, nice fanboy rant and bait.
Lulz.

carver9 Senior Member

Wait a minute...why is Hulk vs Superman being discussed here?

HulkIsHulk Senior Member

Originally posted by abhilegend
Really? How many superman comics have you read?

By explicit I mean a character or company outright stating it. Comprehend?

Originally posted by abhilegend

This shows not much.

I see them in a similar manner. The only difference is if Superman punches out Krona, It'd be still PIS, but I'd see it as more believable than Spidey punching out Galactus.

Originally posted by abhilegend

Yes.

Whatever

Originally posted by abhilegend
Just like Hulk would have to start again when the next personality emerges.

At least the feats of the previous incarnations don't go up in smoke just like that unlike the total reversal of the universe

Originally posted by abhilegend
Oh really? Superman along with Cap lifted a book with infinite weight. Compare a hulk feat like that. Hahahahaha.

😉 Hmm...
Hulk punching an amped Ironclad sending shockwaves into an infinite dimensions come to mind

Originally posted by abhilegend

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😛 Lets just forget about this part okay. I was just riling him up.

Originally posted by abhilegend

Wait what? Hulk has been wanked to hell by marvel this last decade.

Exactly. Only in the last decade while Superman has been like that forever.

Originally posted by abhilegend

Lulz.

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Okay, I was not downplaying Superman, I was just showing that he can be downplayed in the same way like your friend is downplaying Hulk.

Originally posted by carver9
Wait a minute...why is Hulk vs Superman being discussed here?

Darthpower is to blame. OF all the people to mention he had to mention Superman.
And then fanboys like that Prof guy come in and lowball Hulk. Guys like me can't stand it and do a counter rant and the message boards explode and finally the forum gets locked. This has been happening since the beginning of battle forums

Fifthchild Restricted

Originally posted by janus77
I'm just glad the Waid shit is over with, Aarons, Waid and whatsisface the other guy ... truly ****ed up Hulk beyond any hopes of repair, or so I'd felt.

Green Scar gone, Banner just a resentful genius always teetering on the edge of madness and intent on killing the "monster" Hulk ... As if Planet Hulk, WWH and pretty much everything over the last decade hadn't happened.

Anyway, Doc Green is "interesting" and the Savage Hulk super-genius/TK potential stuff is also very promising.

Mostly though, the shit shower that was Waid, is over. Stories that are interesting (or less stupid) are in the pipeline and Hulk is intelligent again.

As far as power levels and where Hulk should be placed, I think Hulk should actually feature very little. It should be Banner science-ing the hell out of Earth threatening problems and then, just when thing seem like they're going to spiral out of all control, Banner Hulks out and the agency of chaos saves the day as Banner's planning and scheming - however great they are - can never be an adequate substitute to the raw rampaging brutality of The Hulk.

It'd be a continuation of the lesson that Hulk taught The Leader, The Mad Thinker, Stark, Reed etc ... That Hulk is the "smartest one there is". They cannot think past his power, they cannot do without his chaotic, uncontrollable, unquantifiable and impossible to calculate contributions.

Hulk should be reserved for cosmic/demon god type threats as well as occasionally being manipulated into almost destroying The Avengers/X-Men/Earth when some demon or Thanos or some other entity finds it smartest to use Hulk against The Earth, rather than attempt to match their own strengths against Hulk and Earth.

Banner should invent a flight-suit for Hulk, then go cosmic.

This may be my favourite post of the year. I salute your wisdom.

carver9 Senior Member

Originally posted by HulkIsHulk
By explicit I mean a character or company outright stating it. Comprehend?

I see them in a similar manner. The only difference is if Superman punches out Krona, It'd be still PIS, but I'd see it as more believable than Spidey punching out Galactus.

Whatever

At least the feats of the previous incarnations don't go up in smoke just like that unlike the total reversal of the universe

😉 Hmm...
Hulk punching an amped Ironclad sending shockwaves into an infinite dimensions come to mind

😛 Lets just forget about this part okay. I was just riling him up.

Exactly. Only in the last decade while Superman has been like that forever.

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Okay, I was not downplaying Superman, I was just showing that he can be downplayed in the same way like your friend is downplaying Hulk.

Darthpower is to blame. OF all the people to mention he had to mention Superman.
And then fanboys like that Prof guy come in and lowball Hulk. Guys like me can't stand it and do a counter rant and the message boards explode and finally the forum gets locked. This has been happening since the beginning of battle forums

Doesn't matter tbh and Superman doesn't belong here. You and ABHI can fuss all day about both characters but it will be an ongoing debate on two sides that will never win. Both Hulk and Superman are the strongest beings on their planer and BOTH get wanked to hell. The only thing an argument of this type is going to lead too is low balling. This isn't the thread for this. Let's debate Ironman vs Hulk.

Hulk wins 10/10

janus77 Banana Genius

Originally posted by Fifthchild
This may be my favourite post of the year. I salute your wisdom.

Any man that sports a Gary Busey avatar is naturally to be respected.

So, thank you 👆

HulkIsHulk Senior Member

Originally posted by carver9
Doesn't matter tbh and Superman doesn't belong here.

Pretty much

Originally posted by carver9
You and ABHI can fuss all day about both characters but it will be an ongoing debate on two sides that will never win. Both Hulk and Superman are the strongest beings on their planer and BOTH get wanked to hell.

True. And Superman and Hulk are among of the most powerful beings in comics not counting cosmic beings and abstracts.

Originally posted by carver9
The only thing an argument of this type is going to lead too is low balling. This isn't the thread for this.
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I avoid such topics until someone low balls Hulk. Okay ABHI. Let's end it here.
If you want to say anything more PM me.

Originally posted by carver9
Let's debate Ironman vs Hulk.

Hulk wins 10/10 [/B]


I already stated my opinion before about this fight

Originally posted by HulkIsHulk
As for the fight, Hulk Smash. Hulk 9.8/10
abhilegend Prince of All Saiyans

Originally posted by HulkIsHulk
By explicit I mean a character or company outright stating it. Comprehend?
Wut?

I see them in a similar manner. The only difference is if Superman punches out Krona, It'd be still PIS, but I'd see it as more believable than Spidey punching out Galactus.
😂

Whatever
Sure.

At least the feats of the previous incarnations don't go up in smoke just like that unlike the total reversal of the universe
Just like Superman's feats remain with that version.

😉 Hmm...
Hulk punching an amped Ironclad sending shockwaves into an infinite dimensions come to mind
Not even comparable when it was done via crossroads. The shockwave just went through doorways.

😛 Lets just forget about this part okay. I was just riling him up.
And who said I was serious?

Exactly. Only in the last decade while Superman has been like that forever.
But its in character for him to be the top dog.

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Okay, I was not downplaying Superman, I was just showing that he can be downplayed in the same way like your friend is downplaying Hulk.

Sure, he can be. Any character can be.

Darthpower is to blame. OF all the people to mention he had to mention Superman.
And then fanboys like that Prof guy come in and lowball Hulk. Guys like me can't stand it and do a counter rant and the message boards explode and finally the forum gets locked. This has been happening since the beginning of battle forums
Amen to that. Lets all chill out.

HulkIsHulk Senior Member
Originally posted by abhilegend

Just like Superman's feats remain with that version.

Well, Hulk's feats are still his whatever the version. SUperman's feats become a speperate character.

Originally posted by abhilegend

Not even comparable when it was done via crossroads. The shockwave just went through doorways.

And that's exactly what makes it beleivable. And there were doorways to every dimension in the universe, and therefore, infinite pathways.
""Since parallel dimensions such as Microverse were attached, it influenced the multiverse. The Multiverse has literally an infinite number of dimensions. As direct result infinite dimensions have the same volume of infinite planets. Hence the powerful impact would encompass entire dimensions, not only planets""

Originally posted by abhilegend

And who said I was serious?

No one did. I just said I was not serious

Originally posted by abhilegend

But its in character for him to be the top dog.

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lol. The thing I was saying was that many writers did not respect hulk at all and some knew zero about hulk. Some used him simply as a prop character. Only in the recent years thanks to the Avengers movie, PAD and Greg Pak he became one of the big boys again.

Originally posted by abhilegend

Sure, he can be. Any character can be.

That's just what I said

Originally posted by abhilegend

Amen to that. Lets all chill out.

Yep

HulkIsHulk Senior Member

Originally posted by abhilegend
And who said I was serious?

Now that I think about it, is that your catchphrase?

Tony Stark Mr. All Day

Originally posted by carver9
Doesn't matter tbh and Superman doesn't belong here. You and ABHI can fuss all day about both characters but it will be an ongoing debate on two sides that will never win. Both Hulk and Superman are the strongest beings on their planer and BOTH get wanked to hell. The only thing an argument of this type is going to lead too is low balling. This isn't the thread for this. Let's debate Ironman vs Hulk.

Hulk wins 10/10

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