Originally posted by The_Tempest
Which, again, makes your askance as to why I'm less inclined to debate you more bewildering.
Well I've never seen why this is such a big deal to you.
Originally posted by The_Tempest
You just whined about me making these things like a court battle. 😐
Only in terms of how you seem to think we should follow some stupid code of ethics. I don't believe in ethics so screw that.
Originally posted by The_Tempest
Lives aren't at stake. But you have a history of nerd!rage and hurt feelings as much as anyone here; how many times have you exuded frustration at people not accepting your interpretation of things? Lots and lots and lots and lots and lots and lots....What you're telling me is that it is acceptable for you to be dishonest, but you absolutely despise it when others do it to you.
So what you're saying is that... .its dishonest not to agree with me?
Seems about right.
You know what else gets me frustrated? Dark Souls. I don't take it seriously though.
Originally posted by The_Tempest
Right, so disagreeing with you or picking on you is a problem, but a friend who deliberately lies in a friendly debate isn't a problem?
No to disagreeing with me, yes to picking on me because deliberately trying to upset me isn't cool and I haven't lied to you last I checked.
Originally posted by The_Tempest
But... you're not creative.
Ok, ow.
Originally posted by The_Tempest
I give you a quote you don't like and you write it off entirely but if someone doesn't accept your preferred speculation, you go apeshit. 😬
No, I argue against it.
Originally posted by The_Tempest
Oh please. The dark nexus argument, besides being perfectly valid, is one I apply to everyone, no matter who the character involved is. I'm the one who argues that Sidious's defeat of Luke on Byss is suspect precisely because it took place on a dark side nexus.The difference is that you cherrypick.
Who cares. In my opinion its still an intellectually dishonest argument whereby you twist facts to your advantage.
Originally posted by The_Tempest
Rather be a condescending douche who's right (me) than a hypocritical douche who's wrong (you).And fat.
And English.
Also you.
Yeah, but I'm not a douche so up yours.
Nephthys
Well I've never seen why this is such a big deal to you.
😐
Again, you don't understand why, when I put forth a great deal of time and effort into making a cohesive, logical argument, it's a "big deal" when you put a great deal of time and effort into a dishonest rebuttal?
I feel like I'm having to explain the fundaments of reality to you.
I, like you, put a great deal of time and energy into these posts, examining and citing sources in scholarly fashion, expecting that the things I provide will be dealt with fairly and honestly.
I, like you, am perturbed when people don't treat the fruits of my labor fairly.
I, unlike you, do not casually utilize a tactic I despise... unless to encourage others, like you, not to use them.
Nephthys
Only in terms of how you seem to think we should follow some stupid code of ethics. I don't believe in ethics so screw that.
Yet you cling to that "stupid code of ethics" when people do to you as you do unto them. 😐
Nephthys
So what you're saying is that... .its dishonest not to agree with me?Seems about right.
You know what else gets me frustrated? Dark Souls. I don't take it seriously though.
Not sure how you don't take something seriously that elicits a strong emotional reaction from you. 😬
I think what you're trying to do is handwave your history of butthurt and nerd!rage as saying, "well yeah it pissed me off to no end and i screamed to the heavens and vowed blood vengeance... but lol i dont take it seriously not one bit!"
Pretty sure by definition whatever provoked you so utterly is something that you clearly took seriously.
Nephthys
No to disagreeing with me, yes to picking on me because deliberately trying to upset me isn't cool and I haven't lied to you last I checked.
😐
You know and have known that I am... displeased when I present an argument and my opponent responds with dishonesty. So it is acceptable for you to deliberately use tactics that irritate me, but treating the Joker as something less than fap fuel is taboo?
Do you... understand what friendship means?
Nephthys
Ok, ow.
It's no less creative than me giving you a blue pen and you telling me over and over again than it's red. To quote Jim Carrey, the goddamn pen is blue!
Nephthys
No, I argue against it.
In between expressions of outrage, frustration, and indignation... perhaps.
Nephthys
Who cares. In my opinion its still an intellectually dishonest argument whereby you twist facts to your advantage.
...How is it intellectually dishonest and to my advantage... when I apply it equally to all characters? 😐
Nephthys
Yeah, but I'm not a douche so up yours.
You are, my friend, the worst kind of douche: the fat English hypocritical kind.
Originally posted by The_Tempest
a tactic I despise
Yeah that. I don't get why it bothers you so much.
Originally posted by The_Tempest
Yet you cling to that "stupid code of ethics" when people do to you as you do unto them. 😐
No I don't. You keep saying that when its not true and its really getting irksome.
Originally posted by The_Tempest
Not sure how you don't take something seriously that elicits a strong emotional reaction from you. 😬I think what you're trying to do is handwave your history of butthurt and nerd!rage as saying, "well yeah it pissed me off to no end and i screamed to the heavens and vowed blood vengeance... but lol i dont take it seriously not one bit!"
Pretty sure by definition whatever provoked you so utterly is something that you clearly took seriously.
I guess I'm just a psychopath.
As I said, I don't care about the actual arguments as much as the people I'm having them with. So when you or someone else acts like a jackass it affects me. Even then its not super serious.* Remember how much me and Sexy used to hate each other? Now we're like old pals or whatever. Water under the bridge.
I'm really not even sure what you're referring to here. I think you're vastly overrating my hissy fits.
Originally posted by The_Tempest
😐You know and have known that I am... displeased when I present an argument and my opponent responds with dishonesty. So it is acceptable for you to deliberately use tactics that irritate me, but treating the Joker as something less than fap fuel is taboo?
Do you... understand what friendship means?
I didn't know that actually. I thought you were just being a high and mighty vagina about it, not that apparently its some super big deal to you.
I could just as easily turn this back on you, since I've told you how much it annoys me when you act like the damn morality police and you keep doing it. Especially when I'm not even ****ing talking to you as was the case recently. Can't you just worry about your own damn points and not try to 'correct' mine. Do you have any idea how arrogant that is?
Once again, I disliked what a jackass you were being, not how much you cared about the damn joker.
Originally posted by The_Tempest
It's no less creative than me giving you a blue pen and you telling me over and over again than it's red. To quote Jim Carrey, the goddamn pen is blue!
I'm a lot more creative than that. And its oh so much fun to get someone to say the pen is red.
Originally posted by The_Tempest
In between expressions of outrage, frustration, and indignation... perhaps.
Now who's a liar? I've never done that. Unless the quote is really dumb like some of the ones about the Exile but you didn't give me that.
Originally posted by The_Tempest
...How is it intellectually dishonest and to my advantage... when I apply it equally to all characters? 😐
Because you only ever use it in support of your preferred characters. And because completely writing-off a feat because of it is extremely disingenuous and contrarian.
Originally posted by The_Tempest
You are, my friend, the worst kind of douche: the fat English hypocritical kind.
Me, I'm dishonest, and you can always trust a dishonest man to be dishonest. Honestly, it's the honest ones you want to watch out for, 'cause you can never predict if they're going to do something incredibly stupid.
* Except for Rogue Jedi and Dadudemon. I ****ing hate those two pricks.
For instance on the whole using it to your advantage front, you're more than willing to jump in and point out to me that a feats not valid because it happened on a nexus, but you don't seem to point out that Kalakar Six is a nexus whenever someone brings up Sidious disintegrating those acolytes. Or when you bring it up. 😐
Nephthys
Yeah that. I don't get why it bothers you so much.
Because I put a lot of time and energy into a post and for you to respond dishonestly means I wasted my time and energy?
Nephthys
No I don't. You keep saying that when its not true and its really getting irksome.
You get mad all the time when I bend quotes and twist interpretations to the detriment of characters you like. And I only do it to give you a taste of your own medicine.
Nephthys
I guess I'm just a psychopath.As I said, I don't care about the actual arguments as much as the people I'm having them with. So when you or someone else acts like a jackass it affects me. Even then its not super serious.* Remember how much me and Sexy used to hate each other? Now we're like old pals or whatever. Water under the bridge.
I'm really not even sure what you're referring to here. I think you're vastly overrating my hissy fits.
Yeah and I distinctly recall you going apeshit on LeGenD because he didn't agree with you about Bane or some such.
You can pretend all you like that you don't take it seriously, but your posts say otherwise.
Nephthys
I didn't know that actually. I thought you were just being a high and mighty vagina about it, not that apparently its some super big deal to you.I could just as easily turn this back on you, since I've told you how much it annoys me when you act like the damn morality police and you keep doing it. Especially when I'm not even ****ing talking to you as was the case recently. Can't you just worry about your own damn points and not try to 'correct' mine. Do you have any idea how arrogant that is?
Once again, I disliked what a jackass you were being, not how much you cared about the damn joker.
Except that my "lessons" are reactionary. Your infractions precipitate them. In other words, you ceasing to be a dishonest twit would save us both headaches.
As usual, you want favorable conditions and a free pass to conduct yourself dishonestly and hypocritically and, as usual, I'm holding your feet to the fire until you stop.
Nephthys
I'm a lot more creative than that. And its oh so much fun to get someone to say the pen is red.
Hey, it's fun to me when I reduce a grown man to tears by criticizing his favorite comic book movie. 😐
But you asked me to stop and I have. But you're acting like a chick who slaps a grown man, cries in anguish when he beats the hell out of her, and then keeps on swinging after he's relented.
Why should I treat you any differently than you treat me? Why should anyone treat you differently?
Nephthys
Now who's a liar? I've never done that. Unless the quote is really dumb like some of the ones about the Exile but you didn't give me that.
You practically menstruate with every post. uhuh
Nephthys
Because you only ever use it in support of your preferred characters. And because completely writing-off a feat because of it is extremely disingenuous and contrarian.
Except that's not true. Otherwise I'd be saying lol Bane and the temple doesn't count but Sidious beating Luke does. 'I'm excruciatingly, meticulously evenhanded with such things.
You redistrict logic at whim to favor your preferred characters.
Nephthys
Me, I'm dishonest, and you can always trust a dishonest man to be dishonest. Honestly, it's the honest ones you want to watch out for, 'cause you can never predict if they're going to do something incredibly stupid.
Originally posted by Nephthys
For instance on the whole using it to your advantage front, you're more than willing to jump in and point out to me that a feats not valid because it happened on a nexus, but you don't seem to point out that Kalakar Six is a nexus whenever someone brings up Sidious disintegrating those acolytes. Or when you bring it up. 😐
Kalakar Six is a nexus??
I meant that you'd be reading the list of sources.
Well I think we can believe it given this:
'Rumors held that around 100 BBY, the moon's dark side nature attracted Baron Yorn and his followers from Coruscant, who set up a fortress with the intent to conduct experiments there. However, a supply ship later noted that everyone there had vanished, except for Yorn, who had gone mad, tearing out his own eyes and tongue. '
Its too elaborate to be made up and easily disproven by anyone with Resurrection. Though if you really want I can look up that crew skill mission in TOR tomorrow. My Inquisitor has Archaeology.
Ruusan, Vjun, Dagobah, Ambria and Lehon all possessed nexuses that lasted for centuries or millennia without fading or even appearing to weaken. In fact, what do you have to show to support the assertion that it would fade? Korriban is the only nexus I recall that weakened and that can be explained by the weakening of the Sith. If Lehon was still going strong 3000 years after all the Rakata died and tens of thousands of years after the collapse of the Infinite Empire, then I doubt 100 is enough for Kalakar Six's to fade, especially when its that strong.
Doesn't say anything.