JLA/Avengers Krona Vs Abraxas

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JLA/Avengers Krona Vs Abraxas

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close battle, krona was more powerful than eternity, and the combined might of the 12 artifacts couldn't take him, yet he didn't show the destructive capability that abraxas has, think i'll give abraxas the edge here.

Probably JLA/Avengers Krona.

Even with all those artifacts (which included a Cosmic Cube and the IG) they couldn't stop him.

Originally posted by zopzop
Probably JLA/Avengers Krona.

Even with all those artifacts (which included a Cosmic Cube and the IG) they couldn't stop him.

Who had those artifacts? They tried the IG on Krona?

As had been previously established in issues of Green Lantern(not to mention the fact that he solidified the aforementioned continuity by erasing a few universes during JLA/Avengers), that version of Krona, even at his base level, was literally the physical embodiment of entropy itself... This alone should be enough to place Krona over Abraxas, given that DC's entropy=Marvel's UN>Abraxas.

However, if we are using 'peak' Krona, then take note of the items he had under his control:
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/15887720/ja-01-25.jpg.html
The infinity gems, a cosmic cube, and the UN(among several other insanely uber relics.)

I don't see how an intelligible argument can even be made for Abraxas, tbh. Krona stomps.

^the thing with krona though, after JLA/Avengers he appeared in trinity, he seemed to have been just as powerful as he was in the crossover and yet he was defeated by the cosmic superman, batman and wonder woman who showed no more than planetary level feats throughout the whole volume 3 of the series (after which they were transformed)

JLA/Avengers Krona=/=Trinity Krona.

Two.Completely.Different.Versions.Of.The.Character.

I want to say Abraxas but really can't. That's my answer.

Originally posted by Galan007
JLA/Avengers Krona=/=Trinity Krona.

Two.Completely.Different.Versions.Of.The.Character.

why? at the end of the crossover he was trapped in the cosmic egg, and then released in the trinity series. and seemed just as powerful.

He was no longer the embodiment of entropy during Trinity, nor did he wield any of the 'items of power'.

So once more:
JLA/Avengers Krona=/=Trinity Krona.

Two.Completely.Different.Versions.Of.The.Character.

Originally posted by Galan007
As had been previously established in issues of Green Lantern(not to mention the fact that he solidified the aforementioned continuity by erasing a few universes during JLA/Avengers), that version of Krona, even at his base level, was literally the physical embodiment of entropy itself... This alone should be enough to place Krona over Abraxas, given that DC's entropy=Marvel's UN>Abraxas.

However, if we are using 'peak' Krona, then take note of the items he had under his control:
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/15887720/ja-01-25.jpg.html
The infinity gems, a cosmic cube, and the UN(among several other insanely uber relics.)

I don't see how an intelligible argument can even be made for Abraxas, tbh. Krona stomps.

I'm not using Krona with the artifacts. However, I'm using the Krona who absorbed multiple universes into himself.

Originally posted by Golgo13
I'm not using Krona with the artifacts. However, I'm using the Krona who absorbed multiple universes into himself.
Cool, that was Krona as the embodiment of entropy. Given that he destroyed at least 2 universes on panel, he not only wields the fundamental power of entropy, but subsequently the power of 2 entire universes as well.

Originally posted by Galan007
Cool, that was Krona as the embodiment of entropy. Given that he destroyed at least 2 universes on panel, he not only wields the fundamental power of entropy, but subsequently the power of 2 entire universes as well.

But wasn't Abraxas causing universe to collapse as he approach them?

Originally posted by the Darkone
But wasn't Abraxas causing universe to collapse as he approach them?
Abraxas ultimately caused multiversal damage, yes. However, he never destroyed any universes in one fell swoop on panel, as Krona did.

Anyway, it goes back to my original point: DC's entropy=Marvel's UN>Abraxas. Ergo, Krona>Abraxas.

Hey there friends ...

Marvel has an actual concept that represents "Entropy."

The UN is just an immensely powerful weapon
that can erase space-time and everything in-between across all creation.

Krona was empowered by two universes that came from some multiverse
shared by Marvel/DC for sake of the crossover.

Eternity/Infinity representing the Multiversal Space-Time Continuum
were afraid of Abraxas and indeed summoned TOAA (Reed lol) to solve the problem.

Eternity/Infinity

Eternity/Infinity >>> two universes

Originally posted by Mr Master

Eternity/Infinity representing the Multiversal Space-Time Continuum
were afraid of Abraxas and indeed summoned TOAA (Reed lol) to solve the problem.
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God, I hate Reed.

Better eliminate that thought from your mind. Reed is omniscient, and he'll figure out a way to come to our dimension/universe, to zop you out of existence.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Hey there friends ...

Marvel has an actual concept that represents "Entropy."

The UN is just an immensely powerful weapon
that can erase space-time and everything in-between across all creation.

Krona was empowered by two universes that came from some multiverse
shared by Marvel/DC for sake of the crossover.

Marvel's personification of Entropy needed help(in the form of Genis) to kill/erase Eternity.

DC's version of entropy, on the other hand, is a destructive force that, when unleashed, erases time/space/matter/energy/concepts all by its lonesome...

"This destructive force is working its way back through the timestream--simultaneously wiping out time and space.":

"It seems that entire segments of time--and the universe--are being destroyed.":

"All-consuming, destructive entropy has been unleashed, crushing every shred of matter in existence.":

"The entire universe ceases to exist. All energy is gone. There are no witnesses alive, no one to tell the tale.":

Heck, even purely conceptual beings, like Death, cannot withstand entropy in DC:

...If that isn't equivalent to Marvel's nullification, then I don't know what is.

That said, it had already been established in prior issues of GL that the particular version of Krona from JLA/Avengers was the literal embodiment of entropy itself-- that's why he was still able to erase whole universes AND absorb the energies of said universes during the crossover. Hence my opinion: Krona=entropy=UN>Abraxas.

Krona. Not close.

Originally posted by Galan007

Marvel's personification of Entropy needed help(in the form of
Genis) to kill/erase Eternity.

DC's version of entropy, on the other hand, is a destructive force that, when unleashed, erases time/space/matter/energy/concepts all by its lonesome...

...If that isn't equivalent to Marvel's nullification, then I don't know what is.


Hey there, I was never glorifying "Entropy" ...
I only added the facts concerning Marvel's version of said concept.

DC's version of "entropy" is "UN-like" ... yes I agree.

But, how was Krona defeated again?

And, how was Abraxas defeated?