Originally posted by curryman
I understand your unwillingness, but it's a thread about Thor's limits. If you bring up the Hulk and Superman you know some shit's gonna go down 😛
right, because there are members of this forum who are completely unable to hold any type of discussion that mentions Hulk or Superman without it turning into a penis measuring contest.
Originally posted by Oliver North
right, because there are members of this forum who are completely unable to hold any type of discussion that mentions Hulk or Superman without it turning into a penis measuring contest.
I get that, but this thread is purely a penis-measuring contest.
If not then it should have gone into the Comic Book Questions thread.
Originally posted by curryman
I understand your unwillingness, but it's a thread about Thor's limits. If you bring up the Hulk and Superman you know some shit's gonna go down 😛
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My original point still stands, though. In Marvel, Hulk is the strongest. People can hurt him, but he'll always be the benchmark. In DC, it's Superman.
Thor's schtick isn't being super strong, so he'll never be written physically to the same extent as the others on a consistent basis. He'll still compete, and he'll seem hella impressive, but still.
Originally posted by Oliver North
I can't imagine how...
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Originally posted by -Pr-
😂My original point still stands, though. In Marvel, Hulk is the strongest. People can hurt him, but he'll always be the benchmark. In DC, it's Superman.
Thor's schtick isn't being super strong, so he'll never be written physically to the same extent as the others on a consistent basis. He'll still compete, and he'll seem hella impressive, but still.
Anyways, can you think of any limits? Most I see are fights and such.
Originally posted by carver9
His hate for Hulk is blinding him.
lol, its just funny to me because a) Pr's comment wasn't comparing the two's strength levels at all and b) Hulk is the exact same as Thor, in that, we don't have an absolute upper limit for their strength, so whether Hulk is stronger than Thor or not, it is irrelevant in finding what might be Thor's limit.
w/e, I'm probably just being pedantic again...
Originally posted by Oliver North
lol, its just funny to me because a) Pr's comment wasn't comparing the two's strength levels at all and b) Hulk is the exact same as Thor, in that, we don't have an absolute upper limit for their strength, so whether Hulk is stronger than Thor or not, it is irrelevant in finding what might be Thor's limit.w/e, I'm probably just being pedantic again...
I agree with you 100%, I also agree with Pr...Hull and Superman are the embodiment of strength in their universe. Overpowering Superman physically is a ft that many would talk about. Overpowering Hulk for Marvel would be a ft that many would talk about. Thor doesn't get this appraisal but I still consider him a peer to both and just like you said, it depends on the story.
I just wanted to point out curry hate...he can't stand the Hulk but him hating a character should not cloud his judgment.
Originally posted by curryman
Welcome to ignore.It's his thing but that doesn't mean the feats support him, and it still doesn't mean that there are people who are physically stronger than him.
Anyways, can you think of any limits? Most I see are fights and such.
not sure I know what you're getting at.
Originally posted by carver9
I agree with you 100%, I also agree with Pr...Hull and Superman are the embodiment of strength in their universe. Overpowering Superman physically is a ft that many would talk about. Overpowering Hulk for Marvel would be a ft that many would talk about. Thor doesn't get this appraisal but I still consider him a peer to both and just like you said, it depends on the story.I just wanted to point out curry hate...he can't stand the Hulk but him hating a character should not cloud his judgment.
You really shouldn't talk about such things, especially with how you treated Superman.
Originally posted by carver9
I agree with you 100%, I also agree with Pr...Hull and Superman are the embodiment of strength in their universe. Overpowering Superman physically is a ft that many would talk about. Overpowering Hulk for Marvel would be a ft that many would talk about. Thor doesn't get this appraisal but I still consider him a peer to both and just like you said, it depends on the story.I just wanted to point out curry hate...he can't stand the Hulk but him hating a character should not cloud his judgment.
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I suppose all I was trying for was a bad joke about how Hulk and Supes take a thread off topic often... like this post for instance /sigh
Originally posted by Oliver North
Thor has what I would call "plot device" strength. He is as strong or as weak as the plot requires him to be. Same with Hulk.The difference is in the types of plots they come across. Thor faces enemies that can't always be beaten by strength alone, Hulk almost does exclusively. /imho
This should be the standard the forum goes by
Originally posted by Sin I AM
This should be the standard the forum goes by
It really only becomes relevant in a thread like this, if we are trying to put an upper limit on something that is limitless
it doesn't help at all if we want to ask something like, "is this one limitless character more or less limitless than this other limitless character?"
To paraphase what Marvel once said in a letters column, "Hulk is the strongest there is, Thor is the mightiest of Earth's Mightiest Heroes."
Basically, how I interpret that is that Hulk is the benchmark for physical strength in Marvel, whereas Thor is the guy when it comes to power output and generally tackling the high end threats/enemies. I believe Thor definitely has a limit, though, but generally said limit tends to be catered to the parameters of the story.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
To paraphase what Marvel once said in a letters column, "Hulk is the strongest there is, Thor is the mightiest of Earth's Mightiest Heroes."Basically, how I interpret that is that Hulk is the benchmark for physical strength in Marvel, whereas Thor is the guy when it comes to power output and generally tackling the high end threats/enemies. I believe Thor definitely has a limit, though, but generally said limit tends to be catered to the parameters of the story.
Pretty much.
Hulk is the strongest one, Thor is the most powerful, not the strongest.
Superman is both 😛
Seriously, I think Oliver post is the one that will describe Thor's strenght the best.
Also I agree that hulk sometimes does not get the recognition of being the strongest one in marvel, something that it seems they have been correcting lately.
I believe Hulk is becoming the benchmark in strenght in MU.
Originally posted by Rao Kal El
Hulk is the strongest one, Thor is the most powerful, not the strongest.Superman is both 😛
Seriously, I think Oliver post is the one that will describe Thor's strenght the best.
Also I agree that hulk sometimes does not get the recognition of being the strongest one in marvel, something that it seems they have been correcting lately.
I believe Hulk is becoming the benchmark in strenght in MU.
I love hulk. But my issue with him especially under pak was he didn't have a limit. And I hate that about characters. There needs to be a belief that they can be defeated, that there's a strong possibility that they could lose. That makes them relatable